◄ Chat Log 03.05.2018 ►

[00:01:06] TheBeckoner secretly his hair fans out into a protective shade

[00:01:34] SpazztasticKiwi Now I’m just imagining a frilled lizard

[00:03:05] TheBeckoner I was thinking some sort of hair umbrella

[00:03:06] Vatruvius Hello people! :ptv-greetings:

[00:03:08] TheBeckoner less uhh

[00:03:14] TheBeckoner reptilian?

[00:03:23] TheBeckoner Hey VAt

[00:03:27] TheBeckoner smol a

[00:04:28] SpazztasticKiwi Hey Vat. We’re talking about Tom’s hair and how it protects him as he mows the lawn as he said he did so this morning

[00:04:49] Bgrmystr2 Staying inside doesn't really make you pale. I'm a perfect example of that not being true.

[00:05:01] Vatruvius Don't think that is how hair works, and good for Tom to get some sunshine.

[00:05:15] TheBeckoner you downer

[00:05:23] TheBeckoner course it works that way

[00:05:25] Bgrmystr2 going outside for too long, however, does tend to make your skin darker and give you sunburns lol

[00:05:33] SpazztasticKiwi There are those with a natural tan

[00:05:47] Bgrmystr2 that's not natural, it's from being in the sun

[00:05:51] Bgrmystr2 xD

[00:06:06] Bgrmystr2 it's totally the opposite of what people commonly accept

[00:07:51] TheBeckoner I tan pretty easy

[00:07:55] TheBeckoner heck

[00:07:59] SpazztasticKiwi To be fair, he likely tied his hair back

[00:08:07] TheBeckoner my "sunburn" tans lol

[00:08:31] SpazztasticKiwi I tan ok, but it’s hard to tan evenly with a top and bottom on

[00:09:08] TheBeckoner be naked

[00:09:10] TheBeckoner easy

[00:09:25] TheBeckoner or lose concern fo boob hiding

[00:09:27] SpazztasticKiwi And scare off the wildlife?

[00:09:28] TheBeckoner for*

[00:09:32] TheBeckoner hah

[00:09:49] Vatruvius That is what my sister does sometimes. But that is easy to do when you live in a forest with many trees between you and neighbors.

[00:09:49] SpazztasticKiwi Also, topless sunbathing is unwise in public

[00:09:59] TheBeckoner yeah

[00:10:02] TheBeckoner I would think

[00:10:09] unsteddyphoenix Not in Europe

[00:10:10] TheBeckoner we have a pond so Im good

[00:10:16] SpazztasticKiwi On your stomach, someone can steal your top out from under you

[00:10:23] Vatruvius Just sun bath at a nude beach.

[00:10:25] TheBeckoner You and ur naked folk Phoenix

[00:10:32] SpazztasticKiwi We don’t have those

[00:10:42] TheBeckoner Not in the south no

[00:10:47] Bgrmystr2 haha beck, that's just funny to read

[00:11:07] TheBeckoner lol Phoenix is a naked folk

[00:11:09] TheBeckoner I bet

[00:11:16] unsteddyphoenix Lmao do people actually do that

[00:11:22] unsteddyphoenix jenga your top from under you

[00:11:30] unsteddyphoenix Thats so annoying

[00:11:32] TheBeckoner ha

[00:11:36] TheBeckoner "jenga"

[00:11:47] SpazztasticKiwi Some teens will. To get a chance to see boobs

[00:12:11] TheBeckoner Become male and enjoy the male privilege of enjoying boob but not having boob

[00:12:34] SpazztasticKiwi Unfortunately I can’t just grow a twig and berries

[00:12:40] Vatruvius Wow...that is rather low.

[00:12:41] TheBeckoner easy

[00:12:43] unsteddyphoenix :T

[00:12:48] TheBeckoner *cut off boob

[00:12:54] TheBeckoner *plant nipple

[00:12:58] TheBeckoner *done

[00:13:11] Vatruvius Technically we men just grew a twig and berries from what would have been female reproductive organs.

[00:13:23] TheBeckoner See Kiwi

[00:13:27] TheBeckoner anything can happen

[00:13:49] SpazztasticKiwi But I’m not in the womb. My chromosomes are already set as XX

[00:14:19] SpazztasticKiwi I’ve seen some people describe it as “your vagina falls out”

[00:14:37] Vatruvius Just sign up for genetic testing, we are bound to be close to switch the sex of an individual through their genes.

[00:14:49] Bgrmystr2 xD Kiwi, I don't think those people know how bodies work.

[00:14:51] Vatruvius Not even close but okay.

[00:14:51] Bgrmystr2 like, at all.

[00:15:37] SpazztasticKiwi I like my boobs. As much as I’d like to go shirtless sometimes, boobs are too great to give up

[00:15:53] TheBeckoner How do they benefit?

[00:15:56] TheBeckoner jw

[00:16:02] SpazztasticKiwi I can touch boobs whenever I want and not get in trouble for it

[00:16:09] TheBeckoner true

[00:16:15] unsteddyphoenix good for filling out dresses

[00:16:23] unsteddyphoenix https://imgur.com/IcNgyoK

[00:16:29] SpazztasticKiwi I don’t but thanks for the vote of confidence

[00:16:52] TheBeckoner Awwwwwwww

[00:16:56] TheBeckoner many cutes

[00:17:01] unsteddyphoenix Better than nothing~

[00:17:10] unsteddyphoenix relatable catte

[00:17:11] TheBeckoner Im glad to see that the son was returned

[00:17:21] SpazztasticKiwi I want to snuggle the cute

[00:18:05] SpazztasticKiwi Though on the subject of boobs and kittens, the kitten I have currently likes to curl up on my chest

[00:18:35] unsteddyphoenix Those are two great topics

[00:18:55] unsteddyphoenix And hey, another use for bobs

[00:19:05] TheBeckoner Im off to get saturated and shirtless

[00:19:18] TheBeckoner I'll be back I think

[00:19:27] unsteddyphoenix saturate your fat

[00:22:48] Vatruvius What is a bobs unsteddy? :ptv-tease:

[00:23:38] SpazztasticKiwi Small boobs

[00:24:11] Vatruvius So Flora has bobs?

[00:24:27] Vatruvius While Kat and Natani have boobs.

[00:24:44] SpazztasticKiwi To be honest I think I’m about Flora’s size

[00:25:35] Vatruvius Immediately downgrade my mental image of you. :ptv-victory:

[00:26:01] Vatruvius Boob size does not matter that much to me.

[00:26:16] unsteddyphoenix Could always be worse :ctwokinds-LauraCry:

[00:26:22] SpazztasticKiwi Nice to know you immediately imagined me as very blessed :ptv-condescending:

[00:27:20] Vatruvius lol

[00:27:53] SpazztasticKiwi “I thought you’d be bigger”

[00:27:58] SpazztasticKiwi “Yeah me too”

[00:27:58] Vatruvius I am certainly more of a personality person, but a gifted body does not hurt.

[00:28:09] SpazztasticKiwi It can hurt

[00:29:01] SpazztasticKiwi You run into something you hit it full-chested. Women have airbags with nerves

[00:30:10] Vatruvius Well, I meant it does not hurt for me or the individual in a relationship or potential relationship if they have an awesome personality and have a nice body.

[00:30:45] SpazztasticKiwi That’s pretty true for most people

[00:30:56] Vatruvius One a side note, guys have a marble bag of pain.

[00:30:56] SpazztasticKiwi Except trophy hunters

[00:31:05] Vatruvius Meh...best analogy I could think of.

[00:31:25] SpazztasticKiwi I’ve heard some of the best euphemisms for that

[00:31:34] SpazztasticKiwi “The Infinity Stones”

[00:31:49] SpazztasticKiwi That ones my favorite

[00:31:56] Vatruvius That would be a new one.

[00:32:48] Vatruvius Problem is they are far too delicate compared to what the name is referencing. And they do not have any magical powers other than that which others call their function.

[00:32:55] Vatruvius Or role in life if you will.

[00:33:29] SpazztasticKiwi For something that’s so delicate, I wonder why they’re left on the outside of the body

[00:33:43] unsteddyphoenix Sperm dies in heat

[00:34:02] unsteddyphoenix So if they were inside, the body heat would kill all the sperm cells

[00:34:07] SpazztasticKiwi I know they have to be a certain temperature to keep the little swimmers alive and viable but still

[00:34:25] unsteddyphoenix Gotta stay cool~

[00:35:26] Vatruvius I do not notice its function other than that it is there. But unsteddy is right, scientifically it is so as too keep the sperm cells from dying to body heat.

[00:37:28] SpazztasticKiwi Guys are in constant production. Girls are born with all we get

[00:38:05] Vatruvius That is true, it is rather interesting as well.

[00:38:27] SpazztasticKiwi Plus we lose one every 28 days. Cause logic

[00:39:05] Vatruvius Just how much does the body produce then, how much are you born with? Is it a consistent amount or is based off your genes, so better genes allow more to be produced before birth.

[00:39:18] Vatruvius The cycle of life Kiwi.

[00:40:06] SpazztasticKiwi I’m pretty sure women are born with around a million or something eggs and men are literally always producing

[00:40:41] SpazztasticKiwi And if what you produce isn’t spent, it’s recycled or something I think

[00:41:05] Vatruvius Would not be surprised.

[00:41:41] SpazztasticKiwi Men are encouraged to spend, even if they’re not doing so with a woman because it’s said to encourage production

[00:42:50] Vatruvius Maybe that is true, though I have no idea. Would make sense if that is part of our biology but I cannot say for certain. It seems like an odd evolutionary trait, have not seen it in other species at all.

[00:42:57] SpazztasticKiwi But they also said slower sperm are male that don’t last as long while the faster is female

[00:43:04] Vatruvius Though I suppose other species reproduce more often then we do.

[00:43:41] SpazztasticKiwi So if you take your time in bed, you’re supposedly more likely to have a boy

[00:44:39] SpazztasticKiwi Thanks to learning that fact, I now see couples with kids differently. But I’m not sure if it has much merit

[00:44:51] unsteddyphoenix that...sounds like a myth

[00:45:00] Vatruvius I will keep that in mind, though I certainly never planned on having a fast bed experience.

[00:45:37] Vatruvius Sounds a whole lot better than my sexist English teacher from high school.

[00:46:59] Vatruvius She complained how in literature and history men blamed women for not providing male heirs when all along apparently she read that what the male is thinking of, male or female heir, while "reproducing" is what actually effects weather you get a male or

[00:47:02] Vatruvius female child.

[00:47:05] Vatruvius So stupid.

[00:47:59] SpazztasticKiwi There’s plenty of facts that I wish I’d never learned. Some of them are probably more theory than fact though

[00:48:33] SpazztasticKiwi Yes because while in bed, you should be chanting “male, male, male”

[00:48:35] Vatruvius Probably.

[00:48:41] Vatruvius lol

[00:50:25] SpazztasticKiwi The worst “fact” I heard is that male sperm whales, obviously due to size can’t do a traditional mating so they pump about 30 gallons of mini thems in the water in the hopes they fertilize a nearby female

[00:50:36] SpazztasticKiwi And you wonder why the sea is so salty

[00:50:52] Vatruvius That is not why it is salty.

[00:50:56] SpazztasticKiwi I suspect some of that is true but

[00:51:03] SpazztasticKiwi Come on people

[00:51:15] Vatruvius But most fish reproduce by releasing their sperm over eggs.

[00:51:57] SpazztasticKiwi This reminds me...

[00:52:39] SpazztasticKiwi I once had a little kid ask me when my fixed male dog was gonna have puppies and I’ve never had my mind panic so fast in my life

[00:53:29] SpazztasticKiwi The only thing I could think of was “go ask you mother”, but someone else answered for me

[00:53:57] Vatruvius That reminds me...plan out and settle on an explanation with my spouse for when the kids ask about sex and other topics.

[00:56:26] SpazztasticKiwi I remember one day I was walking around with my boyfriend at the time with two of his young siblings

[00:57:06] SpazztasticKiwi You could see the math going on in people’s heads as they held out hands

[00:57:10] SpazztasticKiwi *our

[00:58:10] Vatruvius Wow, how old were you two then?

[00:58:45] SpazztasticKiwi 18

[00:59:07] SpazztasticKiwi But the brother and sister were 5 and 8

[00:59:23] Vatruvius And people were doing math with that!?

[00:59:44] Vatruvius Let's see here...ah...those two had sex in middle school!

[00:59:45] SpazztasticKiwi They looked like him, but were only listening to me

[00:59:50] Vatruvius I found the answer!

[01:00:49] SpazztasticKiwi For some reason they were more likely to do what I asked than him despite him being their older brother

[01:02:31] Vatruvius Siblings do not like listening to each other so yeah, you were just this nice girl dating their older brother. Makes sense to me.

[01:03:01] SpazztasticKiwi The little sister once asked me when I was gonna be her new sister

[01:03:42] SpazztasticKiwi We both got a deer in headlights look

[01:03:51] Vatruvius lol

[01:03:57] Vatruvius Kids are too innocent.

[01:04:12] TheBeckoner is now unsaturated

[01:04:57] Vatruvius Good?

[01:04:59] TheBeckoner My sister seemed to be very fond of my last gf. Im not sure if thats just how it is tho. "I like you because they like you" sorta deal

[01:06:18] SpazztasticKiwi This ex had two younger sisters and one younger brother. They all liked me, especially the 5 year old sister

[01:06:23] Vatruvius Probably, though I do not know. I do not have siblings that young. Just my sister and she is younger than me by a little under two years.

[01:07:09] SpazztasticKiwi He couldn’t understand why they listened to me so well

[01:07:27] SpazztasticKiwi Or how I was so tolerant of them

[01:07:34] Vatruvius lol

[01:07:51] Vatruvius So a lot of dates baby sitting/getting them to do stuff that he couldn't?

[01:08:38] SpazztasticKiwi He could say “sit down” 100 times and they’d ignore him but once I said sit, they parked it

[01:09:02] SpazztasticKiwi And he’d just give me this look

[01:09:11] Vatruvius And for some reason you do not want kids at any point in your future?

[01:09:19] SpazztasticKiwi Not really no

[01:10:06] SpazztasticKiwi Though I’d be equally important to find a guy that wants them at the same time and will help

[01:10:18] SpazztasticKiwi *it’d

[01:10:34] Vatruvius Is there are particular reason? It seems like you are good with them and kinda like it.

[01:11:06] Vatruvius You mean you are put off of having kids because the guy won't help?

[01:11:22] SpazztasticKiwi I liked them, yes. But i didn’t physically have them or raise them

[01:11:29] TheBeckoner I want kids, gf didnt. I kinda figured that would be a deal breaker for me, and it wouldve been I think

[01:11:45] TheBeckoner Steal a couple Kiwi

[01:12:31] SpazztasticKiwi Do keep in mind, if I have kids, I’m going to be the one pregnant for 9 months with all the symptoms that go with that

[01:13:47] SpazztasticKiwi Another thing is that I’m old enough sure, but I’m a bit young to be worrying about my oven breaking down just yet

[01:13:50] Vatruvius If I were in a relationship, having kids would be a planned thing. Even if it were an accident, it is a team effort. I would work my ass of for my spouse. I would do water I can to help her while at the same time prepare for a new set of feet in the house

[01:14:23] Vatruvius Yeah, I do not plan on having kids for another 6ish years.

[01:14:32] Vatruvius Still need to find a spouse too.

[01:14:38] SpazztasticKiwi I want to make sure I find a good father first too

[01:15:05] Vatruvius Yup...years of searching.

[01:15:34] SpazztasticKiwi Being pregnant for the first time is one thing. Being alone and pregnant for the first time is another

[01:15:38] TheBeckoner I aint lookin too hard yet

[01:15:45] TheBeckoner oof

[01:15:57] TheBeckoner no good being alone and pregnant

[01:16:27] Vatruvius Some men can just be real asses.

[01:17:12] Vatruvius Save yourself the trouble and pain you caused onto others and just buy an adult doll or something.

[01:18:54] SpazztasticKiwi Even if I do start dating someone again, so far the only way I’m getting pregnant is if something breaks

[01:19:32] SpazztasticKiwi And idk what I’ll do then cause my family will go postal if I’m pregnant and not married

[01:19:34] Vatruvius True.

[01:19:48] Vatruvius Move, far away. Get a name change.

[01:20:15] Vatruvius New Zealand is nice. Very pretty over there.

[01:20:22] Vatruvius Beautiful landscapes.

[01:21:39] TheBeckoner I'd do switzerland I think

[01:21:49] TheBeckoner Maybe japan idk

[01:21:58] TheBeckoner I like america so far

[01:22:01] TheBeckoner soooo

[01:22:03] Vatruvius Not sure why this ever was a thought of mine, but it would concern me greatly if I did not want kids yet in the relationship however my spouse or what have you goes out of their way to sabotage any protective measure without talking to me.

[01:22:10] TheBeckoner Im also american so maybe a bit of bias

[01:22:25] Vatruvius I am a Californian.

[01:22:35] Vatruvius Amazing sights here.

[01:22:36] TheBeckoner Nocal or socal?

[01:22:41] Vatruvius North.

[01:22:46] TheBeckoner Hmmm

[01:22:55] TheBeckoner I think Jay leno is up there

[01:22:58] SpazztasticKiwi Sabotaging the protection without the partner’s consent or knowledge is considered rape due to new laws

[01:22:59] TheBeckoner I dont recall

[01:23:41] SpazztasticKiwi Like if a guy opens a condom but doesn’t use it, he can be charged

[01:23:47] Vatruvius The rape part would the least of my concerns. There is a sever lack of communication going on.

[01:24:07] Vatruvius would be the*

[01:24:51] SpazztasticKiwi Don’t rely on just the pill if she’s taking it either

[01:25:21] SpazztasticKiwi It has a bigger fail rate than you think

[01:25:33] TheBeckoner Hey y'all have fun talking about life and what not. Im gonna go ahead and go to bed. Night y'all.

[01:25:41] Vatruvius Good night Beck.

[01:25:47] SpazztasticKiwi ✌🏻

[01:26:48] Vatruvius Maybe, though from my mother's experiences birth control comes with its problems too. The whole hormone thing and all, she found it very difficult to conceive me after getting of. Took months apparently.

[01:27:05] Vatruvius off*

[01:27:33] SpazztasticKiwi It restructures the hormone balance and production. That’s what makes it effective

[01:28:47] SpazztasticKiwi And if you don’t take it every day at the exact same time, failure can increase from 1% to 8%

[01:29:08] SpazztasticKiwi Not alot, but notable when you’re talking about making a baby

[01:29:44] Vatruvius I know it does something to the regular hormone cycle women goes through to prevent pregnancy but I do not think the science behind the long term effects are well known. I mean, regular use of a condom seems fine but I am sure such details will be worked

[01:29:50] Vatruvius out in the relationship.

[01:30:13] Vatruvius go*

[01:30:52] SpazztasticKiwi Side effects are weight gain and depression most commonly. It’s theorized that birth control increases your risk of miscarriage once you do start trying though

[01:31:04] SpazztasticKiwi That’s not been officially proven

[01:32:40] Vatruvius But I do feel that messing with the hormones of the human body is a dangerous thing. Hormones and the brain are linked together, we barely understand the brain and how hormones really effect the body. We know some but not all so I think it should be best

[01:32:44] Vatruvius left untouched.

[01:33:03] Vatruvius I am a natural guy to, organic foods and all that stuff.

[01:33:07] Vatruvius too*

[01:33:10] SpazztasticKiwi Birth control is essential for some women though

[01:34:01] Vatruvius Maybe, I do not know. I am curious if there is a more natural way to prevent pregnancies that do not involve chemical manipulations.

[01:34:06] SpazztasticKiwi Anemics and those with ovarian cysts need to regulate their cycles or risk hospital stay or death

[01:34:10] Vatruvius Or a more natural way in general.

[01:34:27] Vatruvius Yeah, that seems like a must.

[01:35:30] SpazztasticKiwi There’s a feminine condom but it’s not widely sold

[01:37:19] Vatruvius I saw those during a sex ed thing in college. They described them and such, seems like more of a pain than a male condom. I mean, you have to reach in and...just looks painful compared to what a guy can do. Unless they refined the application method.

[01:37:34] SpazztasticKiwi I’m pretty sure I’ll stick to celibacy until I find someone worth it/I’m ready anyway. Sex isn’t required for a relationship

[01:38:40] SpazztasticKiwi It’s not terribly painful if you do it right. Do keep in mind women can push another human being out of that canal. A female condom isn’t going to be much more difficult

[01:39:23] SpazztasticKiwi Especially if you use a gel to get it in place. Or have experience with tampons

[01:39:24] Vatruvius True, but like the first birth I would assume if would be hard the first time.

[01:40:09] Vatruvius What are you talking about Kiwi, relationships are only about the sex! :ptv-tease:

[01:40:32] SpazztasticKiwi Then I’ve got some bad news for the next guy I date

[01:40:50] Vatruvius lol

[01:40:53] Bgrmystr2 Kiwi presuming guys want anything in a date but sex :vvvvv

[01:40:58] Bgrmystr2 bad news for kiwi

[01:41:29] Bgrmystr2 also, semi-back

[01:41:34] SpazztasticKiwi Literally 99% of the guys I’ve met so far have had that one their mind within the first few interactions

[01:41:45] SpazztasticKiwi *on

[01:42:03] Bgrmystr2 well yeah a lot of guys are dumb and only want sex and then run off

[01:42:14] Bgrmystr2 shitty, the lot of em

[01:42:25] SpazztasticKiwi I believe the correct terminology is “fuckboy”

[01:42:35] Bgrmystr2 neh

[01:42:43] Bgrmystr2 Won't be using that.

[01:42:57] Bgrmystr2 I don't use trash terminology :V

[01:43:21] Vatruvius Yeah, take a certain state of mind, personality, and/or maturity to want more than sex out of a relationship.

[01:43:40] Bgrmystr2 and it's not that much maturity either

[01:43:58] Vatruvius Would you guys like to watch a funny video on a guy who does voices?

[01:44:02] Bgrmystr2 pity that so many people lack the ability to reach even that low of a level lol

[01:44:15] Bgrmystr2 I'm busy watchin anime. Meh :v

[01:44:22] Vatruvius It does kinda relate to this topic but mostly is funny.

[01:44:30] Vatruvius Kiwi?

[01:44:36] SpazztasticKiwi Sure

[01:46:06] Vatruvius One sec...

[01:46:49] Vatruvius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z08lo7uOd-o

[01:47:10] Vatruvius I love this guy, he does a great job. I think he does like 9+ voices now.

[01:51:35] SpazztasticKiwi I’ve seen alot of people do voice mimics

[01:51:54] SpazztasticKiwi Thomas does some Family Guy impressions

[01:52:44] Dadrobit Oof, I'm getting some gnarly 1984 vibes from that last conversation.

[01:53:15] Vatruvius Well was not born for more than a decade after 1984 so I wouldn't know.

[01:53:29] Vatruvius Did you watch the full video Kiwi?

[01:53:46] Dadrobit shudders

[01:53:50] Vatruvius Azerrz does a Cleveland voice too. It is really good, check out his Cleveland playlist.

[01:53:58] Dadrobit 1984 is a book that you need to read.

[01:54:10] Dadrobit Was mandatory literature back when I was in school.

[01:54:17] SpazztasticKiwi Wasn’t for me

[01:54:27] Dadrobit Scary

[01:54:46] Vatruvius Kinda don't want to.

[01:54:53] SpazztasticKiwi We read To Kill a Mockingbird, The Count of Monte Cristo, and The Great Gatsby

[01:55:00] Vatruvius Bummer, I get a good laugh out of his stuff though.

[01:55:34] Vatruvius Gatsby, Mockingbird, Of Mice and Men, Lord of the Flies

[01:55:50] Vatruvius A lot of Shakespeare.

[01:55:52] SpazztasticKiwi We had Of Mice and Men too

[01:56:08] SpazztasticKiwi Skipped LotF though

[01:56:20] SpazztasticKiwi And Scarlet Letter

[01:56:31] Dadrobit 1984 is a warning. A book written by George Orwell in 1949 cautioning against the dystopian "future" of 1984.

[01:56:43] Vatruvius I see.

[01:56:51] SpazztasticKiwi Somebody’s gotta tel him

[01:57:17] SpazztasticKiwi “George, it’s 2018”

[01:57:38] Vatruvius Lord of the Flies was really bad, hated that book. And my English teacher assigned us to read it over Christmas break. She wanted the whole book read by the time we got back. Who assigns a book like Lord of the Flies over Christmas!?

[01:58:03] Dadrobit Where government surveillance is nonstop and nearly omnipresent. War is perpetual. And the people are controlled by the "Thought Police".

[01:59:04] SpazztasticKiwi You know the book “F. 451” has been republished with a new cover that comes with a match inside and a spine that can light the match

[01:59:26] SpazztasticKiwi So you can burn the book when you’re done

[01:59:48] Dadrobit Part of that control is maintained through the use of the "Anti Sex League" where people are essentially forbidden from sex. Celibacy is the mandate and any sexual engagements by the people are generally only done with "disgust".

[02:00:07] Vatruvius Interesting. They are coming out with a TV series on the book, it looks really good compared to past movie/tv adaptations of books.

[02:00:36] SpazztasticKiwi I want that copy just as a collector’s item

[02:00:37] Vatruvius Noping out of that read. Thanks Dadro.

[02:00:37] Dadrobit To actually enjoy sex is frowned upon.

[02:00:55] SpazztasticKiwi Do..do they not know how humans work?

[02:01:09] Dadrobit The only thought or emotions that are allowed are administered through the media.

[02:01:33] SpazztasticKiwi I’d die

[02:01:41] Dadrobit You all are very much reminding me of that book with your earlier comments about sex.

[02:02:09] Dadrobit How it's not necessary for a good relationship and that to actively seek it out is "immature".

[02:02:33] Dadrobit Just sayin'.

[02:02:55] SpazztasticKiwi I’m just not a believer in one night stands

[02:03:11] Dadrobit Orwell might have been off by about 40 years, but shit's scary to see irl.

[02:03:11] SpazztasticKiwi I’m too paranoid about getting pregnant on accident

[02:04:03] unsteddyphoenix Ahh yeah the 1984 thing

[02:04:07] Bgrmystr2 Someone thinking only about sex and then dropping the girl while she deals with the pregnancy is literally defined by immaturity

[02:04:12] unsteddyphoenix I watched a plot summary of the book

[02:04:26] unsteddyphoenix Wasnt that book banned in some places or whatever?

[02:04:33] Vatruvius Admittedly that is not my concern, but I would make sure she felt comfortable in what we were doing. I would carry proper protection.

[02:04:40] Dadrobit It's a great read. Sad, but very memorable.

[02:05:17] Dadrobit If it was banned, that's legitimately terrifying...

[02:06:32] Vatruvius What was that one book about farm animals where it was mimicking the Soviet Union and communism?

[02:06:59] unsteddyphoenix Yeah it's been banned on and off over history

[02:07:14] unsteddyphoenix Including idaho in 2017...huh

[02:07:22] unsteddyphoenix You mean...Animal Farm?

[02:07:57] Vatruvius That sounds right.

[02:08:26] Dadrobit It was banned in the USSR.

[02:08:35] SpazztasticKiwi Click here to confirm: It is good advice to always carry one or two in you wallet, but be sure to replace themem after a month. They can start deteriorating

[02:08:50] SpazztasticKiwi Ignore that first part

[02:09:04] Dadrobit And Amazon accidentally deleted both 1984 and Animal Farm in 2009.

[02:09:14] Dadrobit From their catalog.

[02:09:22] Bgrmystr2 "accidentally"

[02:09:22] Vatruvius Interesting.

[02:09:31] Bgrmystr2 if they didn't return it, then it wasn't an accident.

[02:09:52] Vatruvius So much for my box of condoms then...they are certainly older than a month.

[02:10:12] SpazztasticKiwi It’s just a precaution

[02:10:31] SpazztasticKiwi The more you can do to be the safest, the better

[02:10:57] Dadrobit It was taken down because the seller they were using to get the books were not authorized to actually sell them.

[02:11:05] SpazztasticKiwi But be careful - some people could take it as you being expectant that something will happen

[02:11:20] Bgrmystr2 doesn't sound like it was removed by accident then :thinking:

[02:11:27] Vatruvius I remember from middle school how stupid it seemed to me that all the other boys were buying condoms and talking about what kind they got, as if they were going to get laid in the 7th grade.

[02:11:38] Dadrobit Can confirm that they do now sell them both again.

[02:11:45] Bgrmystr2 ah, there ya go then

[02:11:58] SpazztasticKiwi I had a friend that got his girlfriend pregnant in 7th grade

[02:12:14] Vatruvius :ptv-shock:

[02:12:48] SpazztasticKiwi He now has a daughter

[02:13:07] Dadrobit Also, Idaho has not banned the book either (thankfully). But it's a very popular target for schools to challenge to remove from their libraries.

[02:13:18] Vatruvius A daughter, barely started high school, and not much of a future.

[02:13:20] SpazztasticKiwi She’s about 10 or 11 this year

[02:13:25] unsteddyphoenix Hmm...

[02:13:42] Vatruvius Just all around bad.

[02:13:44] unsteddyphoenix Ah, it was just under scrutiny, mb.

[02:13:54] unsteddyphoenix Why add it to the list then website, jeez.

[02:14:15] Dadrobit Also, yeah, junior high pregnancies happen all too often. My mother taught science at the junior high level for a few years, and every year she'd get a few pregnant girls.

[02:14:28] SpazztasticKiwi Scratch that - she’s about 8

[02:14:45] unsteddyphoenix gross

[02:15:01] Dadrobit Super low income area, also had a lot of gang violence.

[02:15:16] Dadrobit Kids couldn't wear solid colors anymore it got so bad.

[02:15:28] SpazztasticKiwi Abstinence is preached where I live, but it doesn’t work

[02:15:36] Dadrobit Never does.

[02:16:19] Vatruvius Problem is here in the US sex is one of those topics you do not really talk about at the dinner table or at all really so informing youth about proper protection is missed.

[02:16:32] SpazztasticKiwi While it’s understandable to follow, the heat of the moment burns away good thinking

[02:17:12] Dadrobit Thankfully, sex was a dinner table topic of sorts when I grew up.

[02:17:18] Vatruvius I remember my middle school made us do the artificial baby doll thing where you had to take care of them to let you know how horrible taking care of kids are but that was a total failure. It was really dumb.

[02:17:23] SpazztasticKiwi And since sex ed isn’t a big thing and nor is the concept of protection...

[02:18:02] SpazztasticKiwi Guys are more likely to get the talk than girls. Girls are just told don’t think about it until you’re married

[02:18:31] Dadrobit At least we talked about it in jest. When my father actually gave me "the talk" it was just "double wrap that weasel boy!" and he tossed me a box of condoms.

[02:18:57] unsteddyphoenix doesnt double wrapping give a higher chance of breakage?

[02:19:04] Vatruvius I think this goes for every guy, after he commits the act of "reproduction" weather it be for real or by hand, he will suddenly become very wise for a couple minutes and realize how stupid of a thing they just did.

[02:19:13] SpazztasticKiwi Double wrapping can cause them to come off more easily and doubles breakage risk

[02:19:19] Dadrobit Hell if I know, never actually did.

[02:19:23] unsteddyphoenix lol what vat

[02:19:42] Dadrobit Vat, you might have some guilt issues mate.

[02:19:44] unsteddyphoenix I see what Dad means

[02:20:23] Dadrobit See? I'm not paranoid!

[02:20:26] SpazztasticKiwi Guys are given boxes of condoms from their dads. Girls are taught to run at the sight of one

[02:20:28] Vatruvius It is a common thing among guys. So common that jokes are made about it, no need for an explanation obviously.

[02:20:48] unsteddyphoenix If it's a joke I dont think you told it right lmao

[02:21:14] Vatruvius My dad never gave me the talk. Only thing he told me when I was young was that masturbating will make me blind.

[02:21:21] SpazztasticKiwi If we could teach girls a dick isn’t gonna nite them, it might help. Even the knowledge field

[02:21:29] SpazztasticKiwi *bite

[02:21:37] Vatruvius Ended up buying condoms with my mom of all people, a surprise purchase, before I left for college.

[02:22:09] Vatruvius I was not telling a joke, but jokes are made fun about the "moment of wisdom" often enough.

[02:22:44] Vatruvius Did not need the mental image Kiwi.

[02:22:47] SpazztasticKiwi Not entirely sure I know what you’re referencing and I don’t think I want to

[02:23:58] Vatruvius More of a guy thing though seems like I am alone in this chat.

[02:24:09] SpazztasticKiwi From what I’ve heard, girls are supposed to stay virgins, and guys aren’t.

[02:24:32] SpazztasticKiwi So is society telling guys to do themselves?

[02:24:34] Vatruvius That can't work.

[02:24:54] unsteddyphoenix No its saying for guys to do each other

[02:24:56] unsteddyphoenix Obviously

[02:25:13] Vatruvius People are blaming gays when all along they should have been blaming the system.

[02:25:34] SpazztasticKiwi Can’t have your cake and eat it too

[02:25:54] unsteddyphoenix And I know what youre meaning vat, but that doesnt mean all sex is "stupid"

[02:26:39] Vatruvius I am not saying it is stupid, just that there is this moment of wisdom. In some situation, it is really stupid.

[02:26:51] Vatruvius situations*

[02:27:07] Dadrobit Big Brother

[02:29:01] SpazztasticKiwi What I find weird is when there’s a nude girl shown in a video or picture for something like anatomy lessons or something and people act like it’s impossible for anyone to have seen something like that before

[02:30:20] SpazztasticKiwi I live with the understanding that if the guy I’m talking to is at least 18, he’s seen boobs before

[02:31:00] SpazztasticKiwi Not counting the way advertising works, it’s very easy to “happen upon” such images

[02:31:14] Vatruvius Right, but guys are made out to be pervs if they look at a naked girl. So society has taught us to be shocked and look away.

[02:31:44] Vatruvius Referring to images even in a classroom.

[02:33:14] SpazztasticKiwi There’s a difference in inrest and respectful observation from leering

[02:33:22] SpazztasticKiwi *intrest

[02:33:55] SpazztasticKiwi But I know what you’re talking about

[02:34:36] Vatruvius It is a shame really. It is all a shame how ads make women feel about their bodies, men too but to a lesser degree.

[02:34:54] Vatruvius also* not "all a"

[02:35:17] SpazztasticKiwi Not just ads. Just seeing other girls in public can be depressing

[02:35:43] Vatruvius I guess so, my sister would be one of those people Kiwi.

[02:35:59] Vatruvius Naturally always thing.

[02:36:00] SpazztasticKiwi Like I’ve said before, I follow a lot of girls and guys with girlfriends online that make me want to just bury myself

[02:36:30] Vatruvius Aw...don't do that. I am sure you are a beautiful person. Both on the outside and in.

[02:37:15] SpazztasticKiwi Ever seen Mark or Jack’s girlfriends?

[02:37:53] SpazztasticKiwi breathtaking

[02:38:10] Vatruvius Girlfriends plural? Not really, we talked about Amy before but I am not much of a social media person, like, at all pretty much.

[02:38:19] SpazztasticKiwi Jacksepticeye

[02:38:32] Vatruvius I know who you meant by Jack.

[02:38:45] Vatruvius I don't live under that big of a rock.

[02:39:17] SpazztasticKiwi Jack’s with a girl named Signe. I met her at PAX. She’s so lovely and sweet

[02:40:11] Vatruvius Good for him.

[02:40:24] SpazztasticKiwi And everyone I met that saw Mark and Amy said Amy is an angel

[02:41:21] SpazztasticKiwi I didn’t get to met them but I did see them walking by at one point. She’s beautiful

[02:41:35] Vatruvius I know for me I am not attracted to girls too thin. Even if it is a healthy thin. For the most part it is about the proportions.

[02:42:20] Vatruvius I can care less how thin a women's waist can be.

[02:42:34] Vatruvius It is not a competition of lowest number.

[02:42:43] Vatruvius Not for me anyway. That just sickens me.

[02:45:39] SpazztasticKiwi There’s also Pewdiepie and CinnamonToastKen’s gf and wife

[02:45:48] zolstarym If you can care less about it, then that implies that your caring is above 0

[02:46:15] zolstarym Meaning you do care about it

[02:46:51] SpazztasticKiwi Ken’s wife Mary had a baby and she’s still just as lovely

[02:47:19] zolstarym Also societies preferences change over time. Back a few centuries it was the opposite

[02:47:28] SpazztasticKiwi And Felix got engaged recently to a girl that has been offered modeling opportunities

[02:47:46] Vatruvius Right, but how thin a girl is compared to the media's ideal image of a girl is my least concern or point to focus on zolstar

[02:50:07] SpazztasticKiwi I know I’m not fat but I also can’t wear what they do

[02:51:54] SpazztasticKiwi It has come to my attention recently that my town’s Mayfest might be the same time as MomoCon

[02:52:34] Vatruvius I see, and that is a problem for you?

[02:53:14] zolstarym back in times when food wasn't guaranteed, being plump was seen as a sign of wealth, because you were basically saying that you were better off than others becasue you had money to spare on food

[02:53:20] SpazztasticKiwi Unfortunately I have no ride to get to MomoCon, as much as I want to go, so not really

[02:54:10] SpazztasticKiwi I’d forgotten about Mayfest until the preparations started and the carnival came into town

[02:54:40] Vatruvius That is true zol, but we not a couple centuries in the past. Food is so abundant that that mentality has switched.

[02:58:43] zolstarym I think it is also true for men. How often do you see sixpack abs on tv/movies?

[02:59:29] zolstarym to be able to see muscle like that usually means unhealthily low body fat %

[02:59:46] Dadrobit And if they are chubby, generally they're relegated to "comic relief"

[03:00:23] zolstarym same with any model/actress where you can see bones/ribcage

[03:00:30] Vatruvius That is true. Like I said earlier, the media makes both feel bad about their bodies. I just think to men a lesser degree than women.

[03:00:34] Dadrobit Fair point: The same can hold true for chubby women in the media.

[03:01:10] Dadrobit Though the chubby girl can also often be the "empowered" character. Generally not true for guys.

[03:02:01] Vatruvius There was Mall Cop.

[03:02:21] Dadrobit Mall Cop? Dude was entirely comic relief.

[03:02:35] Vatruvius That is true.

[03:02:43] Vatruvius Hmm...

[03:05:20] Vatruvius I cannot think of a single movie with empowered male characters that are not ripped. Maybe thin, but still fit.

[03:06:44] Dadrobit Spoiler for Infinity War: They even had a moment of making fun of one of the characters for having the barest presence of a second chin.

[03:07:15] Vatruvius I vaguely remember that, but yes.

[03:09:30] zolstarym did any of you like infinity war? I have heard mixed reviews

[03:10:04] Vatruvius It is really good in a twisted way. That is all I am saying.

[03:10:13] Vatruvius Hater gonna hate.

[03:10:17] Vatruvius Haters*

[03:10:57] Dadrobit I personally loved it. But I can see why people would dislike it.

[03:11:57] Vatruvius The reaction of some of the people in the audience was a bit too much in my opinion. In my head I was like, "just die already and let use listen to the movie."

[03:12:14] Vatruvius us*

[03:12:30] zolstarym I heard mixed reviews for last jedi as well, but ended up liking some of what everyone else seemed to hate. mostly about luke's character

[03:13:41] Vatruvius Mixed bag all of that. I tend to not listen to reviews and just go to movies I think will be interesting. If it is bad it is bad, if it is good it is good. If you like the Marvel movies at all, like any of them, you need to watch this film.

[03:13:58] Vatruvius However, if you have missed any of the other marvel films, watch them before you watch this one.

[03:15:08] zolstarym the audience's reactions is usually why I just wait until home release

[03:15:41] zolstarym when watching a new hope at the theater it was like the movie had a laugh track added to it

[03:17:10] Vatruvius It was not that bad, but definitely the most reactive I have heard from any movie I have attended. Granted, I watch Infinity War a day after release where most other films I watch two weeks after release so most of that "lout" crowd had already passed.

[03:17:10] SpazztasticKiwi When we went to see Rampage, there was this one guy in front of us that Kept. Using. His. Phone.

[03:17:43] Vatruvius Did you kick his chair? Accidentally spill your popcorn on him? Spill your drink a little?

[03:18:38] unsteddyphoenix Endless combat was pretty good, and I dont even like superhero movies

[03:18:53] unsteddyphoenix Though there was a couple next to me who was laughing at Peter Dinklage

[03:19:11] unsteddyphoenix Which made me really irrationally angry and totally pulled me out of the moment. :/

[03:21:09] SpazztasticKiwi O much prefer sitting with friends or a special someone and doing a movie night than going out

[03:21:28] SpazztasticKiwi Too much risk of stupid going to the theater

[03:21:40] unsteddyphoenix Plus $$$

[03:21:51] zolstarym and you can pause it at will

[03:21:54] SpazztasticKiwi (And you can snuggle)

[03:22:10] SpazztasticKiwi And food doesn’t cost an arm and a leg

[03:22:24] zolstarym you have to be lucky enough to have someone though

[03:22:30] SpazztasticKiwi Tru

[03:22:52] SpazztasticKiwi I’ve watched horror movies with my cat before

[03:23:24] SpazztasticKiwi He slept through “Mirrors” and “Mirrors 2”

[03:23:41] zolstarym I watched a dogs purpose with my dog. She went crazy wanting to play with every dog she saw on screen

[03:24:36] Vatruvius As much as I want to keep talking, I got to get up in 6 hours and get ready for school.

[03:24:46] SpazztasticKiwi 👍🏻

[03:24:49] Vatruvius Bye everyone! :ptv-greetings: Catch you guys later.

[03:24:51] SpazztasticKiwi 👋🏻

[03:25:16] SpazztasticKiwi I need to go to bed too

[03:25:19] Dadrobit Cya

[03:25:24] SpazztasticKiwi Not tired though

[03:25:30] Dadrobit And I think I'm finally done with my final project...

[03:25:42] unsteddyphoenix nice!

[03:26:02] Vatruvius I just climbed into bed and I got tired Kiwi so maybe give that a try? Turn off lights or whatever.

[03:26:13] Vatruvius Bye for reals!

[03:26:45] Dadrobit Mind giving some feedback unsteddy?

[03:27:03] unsteddyphoenix Sure, hit me with that sneak peek

[03:27:22] Dadrobit Lemme upload it real quick.

[03:31:22] Dadrobit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b17WkwUkwPg&feature=youtu.be

[03:31:40] Dadrobit Headphones or decent speakers preferable.

[03:34:49] unsteddyphoenix Did you make the foley yourself?

[03:35:03] unsteddyphoenix If you did it's very impressive

[03:35:45] Dadrobit A lot of it I did, some I took from our school library.

[03:37:58] Dadrobit Not 100% on it, but I'm kind of burnt out on working on it anymore.

[03:38:30] unsteddyphoenix Lol, I know that feel.

[03:39:17] Dadrobit Looking at the same 2 minutes and 30 seconds over and over again all semester long.

[03:39:20] Bgrmystr2 that wasn't bad, dadro

[03:39:33] Dadrobit \o/ The bar has been set!

[03:39:49] Bgrmystr2 I liked it, honestly

[03:39:54] Bgrmystr2 I don't know the original sounds, but

[03:39:54] unsteddyphoenix It's really good, idk how nitpicky you want me to be but

[03:40:00] Dadrobit Thanks kindly.

[03:40:10] Bgrmystr2 I wouldn't actually expect anything less from the official release.

[03:40:15] Bgrmystr2 So take that as you will.

[03:40:29] unsteddyphoenix Yeah I thought that too, I could see it passing as legit

[03:40:47] Dadrobit Awwww, thanks.

[03:40:51] Bgrmystr2 the only thing I think was questionable was at the beginning before the gate was opened

[03:41:04] Bgrmystr2 it sounded a bit lacklustre for people preparing for battle

[03:41:20] Bgrmystr2 just with everyone there and all the sounds, I dunno

[03:41:43] unsteddyphoenix Getting convincing voice acting is hard, my lecturers let that kind of thing slide

[03:41:48] Bgrmystr2 but I don't know what kind of stuff you had to work with, so it's alright

[03:41:52] Bgrmystr2 yeah

[03:42:32] Dadrobit Yeah, I actually hate that tbh. It sounds like it came out of a bar.

[03:42:43] unsteddyphoenix At like 1:34 theres a sound effect of blade-on-blade when I think the sword is hitting the wood of axes

[03:42:54] Bgrmystr2 that was the only thing I felt could have been better. Rest of it seemed like pretty good.

[03:42:57] Bgrmystr2 Was there?

[03:43:02] Dadrobit Kept on meaning to change it, but never put in the time to record something better.

[03:43:30] Bgrmystr2 oh yeah phoenix, you're right

[03:44:01] Bgrmystr2 What actually impresses me the most is the explosion at the end at 2:10

[03:44:12] Bgrmystr2 holyshit, I could feel it w/ the ass of my chair

[03:44:22] Bgrmystr2 that was nice

[03:44:27] Dadrobit Well damn, that is a wood on metal clunk.

[03:45:05] Bgrmystr2 whatever you did to make that sound echo, it made my subs purr somethin nice

[03:45:42] unsteddyphoenix In general the blade sfx levels might be sliightly loud for my tastes? that and the slomo at 1:40

[03:45:43] Dadrobit High cut, low boost, reverb for days.

[03:45:54] unsteddyphoenix I vaguely remember the original trailer being loud too though, so that might just be me

[03:46:35] unsteddyphoenix This has to be an A already though.

[03:46:45] Bgrmystr2 the blades did seem a little bit loud, but I don't know if that's actually inaccurate to what real swords would sound like. I mean, I've seen movies and stuff, but I don't trust the sound levels to not be edited in them

[03:46:48] Dadrobit Yeah, I thought it was kinda loud in the mix, but they are super loud sounds irl.

[03:47:10] unsteddyphoenix I can imagine

[03:47:12] Bgrmystr2 yeh agree w/ phoenix, definitely passes as official material imo

[03:47:30] Bgrmystr2 Well done

[03:47:38] Dadrobit Like, I and the guy next to me spent a few minutes in the studio recording a lot of those hits and our ears were nearly bleeding fairly immediately.

[03:48:10] Bgrmystr2 :/

[03:48:13] unsteddyphoenix Lol

[03:48:20] Bgrmystr2 Appreciate your sacrifice.

[03:48:27] Bgrmystr2 [/phoenixism

[03:49:02] Dadrobit nice

[03:49:17] unsteddyphoenix I remember my lecturer saying the levels should never go above "0"

[03:49:24] unsteddyphoenix Which...made sense in context I think

[03:49:40] unsteddyphoenix Negative numbers were involved my memory is hazy

[03:50:23] unsteddyphoenix How long did this take? Semester?

[03:50:27] Dadrobit Going above 0 is just called clipping.

[03:50:33] unsteddyphoenix or two

[03:50:39] Dadrobit And yeah, this was a semester long project.

[03:50:56] Dadrobit I think I probably will place 2nd in the class tbh.

[03:51:08] unsteddyphoenix very nice :ctwokinds-evalswink_sparkl:

[03:51:08] Bgrmystr2 :thinking: what's gonna be the first?

[03:51:16] Dadrobit There's a dude behind me named Jeff that's goddamned incredible.

[03:51:19] Bgrmystr2 and yeah, well deserved

[03:51:45] Bgrmystr2 what's he done w/ his?

[03:51:47] Bgrmystr2 do you know?

[03:51:57] Bgrmystr2 or are you not supposed to know till you reveal it?

[03:52:08] Dadrobit He's kind of an idiot savant to this kind of stuff. He's super weird, almost not all there, but dedicated as all get out and makes really crazy good work.

[03:52:39] Dadrobit Naw, we all collaborate.

[03:52:46] Dadrobit He did a WoW trailer.

[03:53:02] Dadrobit Lemme upload it real quick.

[03:53:22] Dadrobit I did the vox for him and helped him out with his general mixing.

[03:53:33] SpazztasticKiwi I just saw a video where this grown woman is getting arrested for not posting bail

[03:54:01] SpazztasticKiwi She promptly starts throwing a fit and asking where her dad is

[03:54:24] SpazztasticKiwi God bless the poor officer. He was trying so hard

[03:56:22] SpazztasticKiwi Also that sample vid was pretty good. I’m no expert on sound or video though. At least it was all on time

[03:56:52] Dadrobit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFjcT5rW9Jc&feature=youtu.be

[03:57:32] Dadrobit The guy composed the music himself. Only a few samples weren't recorded in the studio.

[03:57:41] unsteddyphoenix Lmao I was about to praise the voice then I remembered it was you

[03:58:29] Dadrobit lol

[04:00:53] unsteddyphoenix Yeah this is like, perfect

[04:01:01] Bgrmystr2 I'm actually not as impressed at that one as I was with yours. The sound effects themselves were amazing, but the voice had almost no depth

[04:01:15] Bgrmystr2 and I know you can add it post-recording

[04:01:19] Bgrmystr2 but it wasn't there

[04:02:40] SpazztasticKiwi THAT IS YOUR VOICE???

[04:02:46] Bgrmystr2 xD Kiwi

[04:02:49] Dadrobit Lol yes.

[04:03:18] SpazztasticKiwi Where did that come from

[04:03:25] unsteddyphoenix we...told you

[04:03:26] Bgrmystr2 I would have probably made it a bit deeper, slightly louder, and gave it a bit of an echo

[04:03:31] SpazztasticKiwi You sound like a damn grinding stone

[04:04:01] Bgrmystr2 but that's not somethin you could have done on the mic so that's not really on you, dadro

[04:04:11] Bgrmystr2 just feels like it could have been better :(

[04:04:31] Dadrobit https://soundcloud.com/daddrobit/terroraptor-wut/s-7MgxQ This is also me.

[04:04:45] Dadrobit Eh, it was how he liked it.

[04:05:01] Bgrmystr2 well alright

[04:05:35] Bgrmystr2 I mean, ain't my project I guess. I'm so used to watching the cutscenes from like.. Warcraft 2, Diablo 2, Diablo 3, etc

[04:05:51] SpazztasticKiwi That’s one confused velociraptor

[04:05:55] Bgrmystr2 there's always so much depth..

[04:06:21] SpazztasticKiwi Not as bone rattling as Kratos though

[04:06:25] SpazztasticKiwi Or Tom

[04:06:42] Dadrobit Yeah, unfortunately, I can only get so far with my voice into James Earl Jones territory.

[04:06:45] SpazztasticKiwi That laugh though

[04:06:47] Bgrmystr2 Where's the volume control on Soundcloud?

[04:06:52] Bgrmystr2 it's so quiet

[04:07:40] Dadrobit The beginning is quite because the engineer was just yelling through the window and not using the "talk back" mic.

[04:07:44] Dadrobit quiet

[04:07:55] Bgrmystr2 ahh

[04:08:22] SpazztasticKiwi Sounds like you almost choked on your own spit there for a second

[04:08:27] Bgrmystr2 and I wouldn't expect that guy, Dadro. But if you can do a good John Patrick Lowrie, I'd sex your voice right there.. if, you know, I was into that sorta thing lol

[04:08:27] Dadrobit You can hear him start to use it halfway through saying velociraptor.

[04:08:49] Bgrmystr2 I literally can't hear anything at ALL except the sound you did

[04:08:51] Dadrobit I swallowed my uvula for a second.

[04:09:01] Bgrmystr2 and the laughter afterwards

[04:09:06] Bgrmystr2 that's the only thing even audible lol

[04:09:11] SpazztasticKiwi *Cackling

[04:09:19] Bgrmystr2 wouldn't consider it so, Kiwi

[04:10:15] Dadrobit Oh, actually got to meet Lowrie at an expo last year, was very cool.

[04:10:27] Bgrmystr2 Well, yeah okay I guess I could see how you'd hear that Kiwi

[04:11:05] Bgrmystr2 The dude's got the voice of a god. I mean, it's one thing that he did the Sniper's voice from TF2, but have you heard the voiceover from the opening to Total Annihilation

[04:11:32] Bgrmystr2 that shit is Don Lafontaine level of badass

[04:11:57] Dadrobit But yeah, I don't often get to use mt "damned grinding stone" voice for work, so it was fun to do that for the guy.

[04:12:01] Dadrobit my*

[04:13:51] Dadrobit He's got a kind of low key trans-atlantic accent going on there.

[04:15:07] Bgrmystr2 goin on where, exactly? :o

[04:15:22] Dadrobit Total Annihilation opening

[04:15:25] Bgrmystr2 ahh that

[04:15:27] Bgrmystr2 yeah

[04:15:44] Bgrmystr2 it's probably my favorite movie trailer voiceover

[04:16:12] Bgrmystr2 There's a lot of good actual movie ones, but that one's not even.. and it's still my favorite

[04:23:56] SpazztasticKiwi I’m going on to bed guys

[04:24:04] SpazztasticKiwi I’ll see you tomorrow

[04:24:41] Dadrobit Night, Spazz.

[04:26:07] Dadrobit brb, gonna get some chow.

[04:30:36] Bgrmystr2 ahh late gnight Kiwi

[04:41:25] Dadrobit Back with taquitos.

[04:52:01] Bgrmystr2 wb to you and your food

[08:27:01] DRAGONTANOPUG :ptv-sleepy: mornin...

[08:30:28] DRAGONTANOPUG Gtg to school bye!

[13:12:59] Twokinds My nightmares make no sense.

[13:14:00] Vatruvius No sense huh?

[13:14:29] Vatruvius Also, hello people! :ptv-greetings:

[13:40:13] Vatruvius Are you serious!? I am shopping at Walmart and I went to the very back to get paper towels and someone stole my cart! :ptv-angry:

[13:54:23] TheBeckoner hah

[13:54:25] TheBeckoner kinda funny

[14:08:32] Vatruvius That is not funny, it is very rude.

[14:08:58] Vatruvius Maybe funny if it does not happen to you, but still.

[14:17:40] PhilTheIdle @Twokinds Dreams never make sense. That's the cool thing about it. But what did you dream?

[14:31:52] TheBeckoner was it full of stuff?

[14:47:54] BadFoMo Drink the soda again?

[14:48:07] BadFoMo *Drank

[14:50:01] SpazztasticKiwi 😨 nightmare?

[14:51:37] SpazztasticKiwi I remember a nightmare I had that wasn’t scary in that it had monsters - it was just that it had no way of being logical and everyone else but me was acting like it was

[14:56:14] Twokinds I dreamt that I was playing God of War.

[14:56:38] Bgrmystr2 :thinking:

[14:57:17] Twokinds And I panicked, because I don't own a PS4, and I was wondering why I spent that money on a game I'm not really interested in.

[14:57:38] SpazztasticKiwi 😑

[14:57:56] SpazztasticKiwi Could’ve been a dream present

[14:57:58] Bgrmystr2 I don't... know if that's like.. nightmare-level lol

[14:58:07] Bgrmystr2 right? kiwi

[14:58:08] Twokinds lol I know

[14:58:37] Twokinds But that's how all my "nightmares" are. Extremely mundane stuff like "where did the money for this come from?!"

[14:58:54] Bgrmystr2 Maybe if you were IN God of War and trying to survive someshit with everyone dying around you and all that stuff.. then okay

[14:59:11] SpazztasticKiwi Mine’s similar in that it’s not really a nightmare either, but also not that level

[15:00:02] SpazztasticKiwi I’d be a quest giving character in that game. They seem to be safe

[15:03:28] SpazztasticKiwi Also, I’ve been thinking how Colin’s name is said

[15:10:24] SpazztasticKiwi Co-lin or Caw-lin - I’ve seen the spelling said both ways

[15:12:51] Bgrmystr2 both of those are the same pronunciation, the latter

[15:13:05] Bgrmystr2 I don't see how the first would be different

[15:18:09] Vatruvius Well this is exciting, I just got you Art Evolution book in the mail Tom.

[15:18:22] Vatruvius Look forward to going through it.

[15:18:34] Vatruvius Looking*

[15:19:27] SpazztasticKiwi They’re not the same

[15:19:58] SpazztasticKiwi It’s easier to hear the difference but that’s for in person

[15:20:33] Vatruvius One is like semicolon and the other is the typical way I have hear Colin pronounced.

[15:24:40] SpazztasticKiwi Exactly

[15:24:59] SpazztasticKiwi Some people spell the latter Collin

[15:25:19] Bgrmystr2 that's really not how pronunciations work but okay xD

[15:26:00] SpazztasticKiwi I wen to school with a guy named Colin that was pronounced “Co-lin”.

[15:26:20] SpazztasticKiwi My DAD was “Caw-lin”

[15:27:52] SpazztasticKiwi The fact that those are swapped points at how they were often mixed up

[15:28:17] Bgrmystr2 I don't see anything swapped, those are the same pronunciation to me.

[15:28:31] Bgrmystr2 but I guess reading and hearing are different

[15:28:33] Vatruvius Names do not really follow pronunciation rules Bgr.

[15:28:57] Bgrmystr2 for the most part, generally they do

[15:29:15] SpazztasticKiwi My dad was said like semicolon while my classmate was the other

[15:29:59] Bgrmystr2 it's just that people who don't follow those rules out of lack of knowledge or that they don't care, that's when names don't follow pronunciation rules.

[15:30:22] SpazztasticKiwi You just can’t see anything differently can you

[15:30:42] Bgrmystr2 I can see lots of things differently, I'm just not being shown any differently lol

[15:31:53] Bgrmystr2 honestly, the only thing I'm trying to figure out is how a semicolon in pronunciation changes vowel sounds

[15:31:59] Bgrmystr2 cuz that's not how it's used

[15:33:30] Vatruvius Prople want unique names, so the either pronouce them differently or spell the differently. The name Elissa, Elyssa, Alyssa, etc. is a great example.

[15:34:09] Bgrmystr2 yeh, spelled differently

[15:34:38] Vatruvius And pronounced differently too.

[15:34:54] Bgrmystr2 all three are pronounced exactly the same way

[15:35:02] SpazztasticKiwi Both pronouncions: https://inogolo.com/pronunciation/Colin

[15:35:30] Bgrmystr2 why the fuck would anyone use the first

[15:36:08] SpazztasticKiwi My dad’s parents thought it was nice

[15:36:29] SpazztasticKiwi He was named after an old famous actor

[15:36:42] Bgrmystr2 yes cuz having your name pronounced colon is great..

[15:37:27] SpazztasticKiwi Do you realize how insulting you’re being or do you just not car

[15:37:54] Vatruvius They are all pronounced similarly. There are multiple pronunciations for Elissa but tgey can all be applied to the different spellings.

[15:38:03] SpazztasticKiwi Because yes there’s weird spelling but that’s a characteristic of the English language

[15:39:00] Bgrmystr2 :thinking: I'm not the one who made the decision to use a word for a name that would get their kid looked at funny. You'd think I don't know what that's like, people making fun of you for your name?

[15:39:25] SpazztasticKiwi That isn’t my point

[15:39:45] Bgrmystr2 so no, I find it more insulting someone would do that on purpose either knowing, or not bothering to care what kind of things would happen.

[15:40:22] SpazztasticKiwi It’s only an insult if you bring it up instead of just using the name as it is

[15:41:03] Bgrmystr2 It's always there.

[15:41:05] SpazztasticKiwi Bullying comes form purposely pointing out double meanings

[15:41:23] SpazztasticKiwi *from

[15:42:09] Bgrmystr2 So preventing it from happening isn't possible then?

[15:42:11] Bgrmystr2 :/

[15:42:30] Bgrmystr2 or at least doing a part to attempt

[15:42:31] SpazztasticKiwi Again, not the point

[15:43:08] Bgrmystr2 Guess I missed it then

[15:43:18] SpazztasticKiwi Actively trying to prevent bullying by tiptoes around possible triggers isn’t the goal

[15:44:11] SpazztasticKiwi Teaching yourself not to nitpick and others not to bully is the goal

[15:44:29] SpazztasticKiwi Spelling and pronunciation is stupid

[15:44:38] Bgrmystr2 that's not really tiptoeing though, but okay, then, please enlighten me to the point of what you're tryin to say xD

[15:46:16] SpazztasticKiwi If you’re saying people should change a kids name’s spelling because of the possibility that someone could take the spelling in a way that pronounces as an insulting word or concept, that’s tiptoeing

[15:47:14] Bgrmystr2 No, not change. That it shouldn't have been that way in the first place. Part of the responsibility of naming a kid is not naming them something stupid. Like "Baby" or "Conception" or whatnot.

[15:47:32] Bgrmystr2 things that are /going/ to be a problem

[15:48:05] SpazztasticKiwi A name that seems stupid to you has a meaning to the person with the name

[15:48:33] Vatruvius Not to mention the meaning it has to the parents who gave it.

[15:49:01] SpazztasticKiwi There’s family names and traditional names. Native American names are wacky as hell and those have depth in the culture

[15:49:09] Bgrmystr2 The parents not actually caring about the name enough to just name their baby "Baby" ? This is meaning to you?

[15:49:47] SpazztasticKiwi The fact that it’s silly to me or that I wouldn’t use it is irrelevant

[15:50:07] Vatruvius So you have met every single parent that has named their child Baby and have deemed that in every case they simply did not care. What kind of parent does not care about what they name their child?

[15:50:35] Bgrmystr2 The people who live here, and send their kids to school where my mother has to be the parent those kids never had

[15:50:47] Vatruvius What you are talking about Bgr is a minority of parents.

[15:50:48] Bgrmystr2 they are the kind of parent that do not care.

[15:51:01] Bgrmystr2 and there's a whoooooooole lot of em

[15:51:45] Vatruvius that*

[15:51:55] SpazztasticKiwi But is it any of your business to judge another’s decision that doesn’t effect you?

[15:52:10] Bgrmystr2 hundreds of kids, multiple schools, many many different stories, but a common theme that reoccurs throughout

[15:52:19] SpazztasticKiwi Yeah it’s stupid but there’s better things to worry yourself with

[15:52:35] SpazztasticKiwi And they can change their name legally one day if they please

[15:53:06] Bgrmystr2 I don't think it should have ever come to that in the first place

[15:54:01] SpazztasticKiwi Funny thing about free will and a free country: stupid can happen legally

[15:54:04] Bgrmystr2 You can't expect everyone else to just bend to some type of "standard" that you make up, though it's nice to attempt. It just won't happen. People are assholes. You have to do what you can with your own decisions.

[15:54:32] SpazztasticKiwi What does that have to do with this subject

[15:54:36] Bgrmystr2 And with my decisions, in this case, I'd start with not naming my kid somethin that would bother them for the rest of their life.

[15:54:52] Bgrmystr2 cuz that's part of the responsibility of being a parent

[15:54:55] SpazztasticKiwi Ok that’s your business then

[15:55:22] SpazztasticKiwi Everyone else’s naming and their spelling and pronunciation logic is theirs

[15:55:42] SpazztasticKiwi I have a name that’s overused as hell for girls

[15:55:58] Vatruvius Even if you think the spelling or pronunciation is stupid and should not have happened, you still have to respect it.

[15:56:08] SpazztasticKiwi Hence why i don’t mind being called Kiwi

[15:56:23] SpazztasticKiwi Not have to respect it no

[15:56:27] SpazztasticKiwi Not to me

[15:56:53] Bgrmystr2 Spelling and pronunciation are common across the board, widely understood. It's not like people can make rules up as they go, cuz that would make pronunciation and spelling pointless.

[15:56:59] SpazztasticKiwi My name insinuates a certain personality in a way

[15:57:04] Vatruvius Well, you can't be rude about how a person's name is spelled or pronounced.

[15:57:18] SpazztasticKiwi Oh people make their own rules everywhere

[15:57:39] Bgrmystr2 yeah they do, kiwi, and it doesn't mean it works.

[15:57:43] SpazztasticKiwi The fact that they make no sense or shouldn’t isn’t gonna change their mind unfortunately

[15:57:53] Bgrmystr2 it's going to make their life hell though

[15:58:24] SpazztasticKiwi It can

[15:58:45] SpazztasticKiwi We had 3 Katelyns in our class group

[15:59:03] SpazztasticKiwi I remember at least two wasn’t spelled the same

[15:59:07] Vatruvius That just makes it confusing. Which Katelyn are we talking about.

[15:59:10] SpazztasticKiwi Drove me batty

[15:59:36] SpazztasticKiwi But that’s the parents making a “unique name”

[16:00:27] SpazztasticKiwi Is it stupid? Very. But I can’t change it nor can I by griping or worrying about it

[16:00:27] Vatruvius I do not mind what a person is named, it is their name, their identity. If they chose to change it that is up to them. I do not care how it is spelled, pronounced, or anything else. A person's name is a part of who they are and it should be respected.

[16:00:41] Vatruvius Even if you would never name your child that, it is still that person's name.

[16:01:21] SpazztasticKiwi People misspell my name because of the multiple spellings it has. Comes with having an overused name

[16:02:17] Bgrmystr2 And I agree Vatru. I do, however, think that parents should have the common decency to not pick something obviously problematic. If there's hidden meaning or whatever, fine, I guess, but a lot of people use that excuse to be lazy

[16:02:20] Bgrmystr2 and that's not excusable

[16:02:52] SpazztasticKiwi Some people think they’re being clever though too with their names

[16:03:21] Bgrmystr2 and it's not okay to say it's their choice because they're making a decision that affects someone else. It has to be made with that person's well-being in mind.

[16:03:45] Bgrmystr2 If it's not made with that person's well-being in mind, it's simply a selfish decision.

[16:03:54] Vatruvius I have no idea if this is true but I would not be surprised. I heard from a friend in middle school, so many years ago, that a parent named their child Hairy. The family name was Dick.

[16:03:56] Bgrmystr2 It happens sometimes

[16:04:11] SpazztasticKiwi Like the couple that spelled their daughter’s name as “Ka8lyn” or something like that. It had a number is what I remember

[16:04:24] Vatruvius Really?

[16:04:57] Bgrmystr2 as much as those I could understand being jokes, happening in real life would just be sad.

[16:05:12] SpazztasticKiwi There’s being unique and then there’s being ridiculous

[16:05:15] Bgrmystr2 some names are not so bad, but others are just obvious

[16:05:30] Vatruvius I guess it could happen if a parent despised the child.

[16:23:49] Vatruvius Well I am going to head out. Catch you guys later today most likely.

[16:24:00] SpazztasticKiwi 👍🏻

[16:32:31] SpazztasticKiwi Anyone got good plans for Mother’s Day? I’m debating doing something other than going out for dinner this year

[16:37:55] SpazztasticKiwi Why’s Picarto telling me Vat doesn’t exist anymore?

[16:38:40] Bgrmystr2 Vatru left the room, so..

[16:38:51] Bgrmystr2 "Not online anymore"

[16:39:07] SpazztasticKiwi Weird

[16:39:26] Bgrmystr2 doesn't seem weird to me. Why would it not say they're offline if they're offline?

[16:39:33] SpazztasticKiwi Probably helps prevent 100 messages being in your inbox when you return

[16:39:53] Bgrmystr2 there is no inbox on picarto though xD

[16:40:00] SpazztasticKiwi Whispers

[16:40:09] Bgrmystr2 they're only there when you're online though

[16:40:16] Bgrmystr2 just like this chat here

[16:41:43] Bgrmystr2 the whispers work the same way as the normal chat. you log off and noone can talk to you cuz you're not here. when you log on, you can see some of the chat history, but whispers don't save

[16:41:53] Bgrmystr2 cuz offline

[16:42:21] Bgrmystr2 it's very normal

[16:43:23] DRAGONTANOPUG Boi, i aced my math test!

[16:43:47] SpazztasticKiwi If I need an in-depth explanation I’ll ask

[16:44:27] DRAGONTANOPUG Ok

[16:44:51] SpazztasticKiwi Not you

[16:45:11] SpazztasticKiwi Good job on math. “A” aced it?

[16:46:57] SpazztasticKiwi Do keep on top of it though. It gets harder as you go

[16:48:03] SiliconCarbide a nora card is up for grabs!

[16:49:13] SpazztasticKiwi Yep. I’d have no idea what to pick though so someone else can get it

[16:50:07] Bgrmystr2 It's ok kiwi, I'll give one even if ya dont' ask :)

[16:50:42] Bgrmystr2 wish I could nab a Nora card, but don't have the monies for that

[16:51:42] SiliconCarbide i could but i really shouldnt

[16:52:00] SiliconCarbide id just get all zen kat pcitures colored because i find marvs commentary entertaining

[16:52:18] Bgrmystr2 same, know that feel

[16:53:31] SpazztasticKiwi We’re all a little obsessed with Kat

[16:53:45] Bgrmystr2 are we? :o

[16:53:51] SiliconCarbide we are

[16:53:54] SiliconCarbide rightlya so

[16:54:48] Bgrmystr2 I wouldn't say so myself, but I do like Kat similar to how I like other characters

[16:55:15] Bgrmystr2 also, had to reload the page in a new tab, previous one is infinite reconnection loop

[16:55:47] Bgrmystr2 Dunno if I have a favorite character yet

[16:56:06] SiliconCarbide well i know mines definetely not red

[16:56:25] SpazztasticKiwi I kinda have a tie between Kat and Flora

[16:58:12] Bgrmystr2 Kat's nice and all, but honestly, I'm torn between Flora and Natani. I like Natani's tendancy for her tsun and her boyish attitude, and I like Flora's cute exterior but her more adult-oriented personality

[16:58:31] Bgrmystr2 that's just me though, Kat's just as nice of a character as they are

[16:59:11] SiliconCarbide id say shes the most relatable of all

[16:59:50] SpazztasticKiwi Kat’s got such an artistic side to her. Crafty and resourceful

[17:00:11] SpazztasticKiwi With just a hint of sarcasm

[17:00:23] Bgrmystr2 I don't know if I relate to any of em, myself :thinking: . I can relate to choices some of em make, but it's not an overarching thing

[17:01:57] SpazztasticKiwi I can relate to Nat’s not wanting kids

[17:02:18] SpazztasticKiwi Though that may be more due to the guy side

[17:02:33] Bgrmystr2 I would think that's almost 100% entirely due to the guy side XD

[17:03:29] SpazztasticKiwi Aw come on. You’re telling me there’s no guys that want to experience the joys of pregnancy? 😆

[17:03:35] Bgrmystr2 uh.. xD

[17:03:52] Bgrmystr2 I mean.. I'm sure that's not a serious question

[17:04:10] SiliconCarbide generalizing like that you could never be sure

[17:04:23] Bgrmystr2 I'm sure SOME wouldn't mind... but for the most part

[17:05:20] SpazztasticKiwi I know. I just kid

[17:06:26] SpazztasticKiwi I have friends who’ll never be able to carry the children they want because they physically can’t and neither can their partner

[17:28:11] SpazztasticKiwi Stupid squirrel just ran out in front of me

[17:30:30] DRAGONTANOPUG You driving while texting?

[17:38:25] SpazztasticKiwi I’m at McDonald’s now

[17:38:40] SpazztasticKiwi It’s been 10 minutes

[17:41:16] Vatruvius Very cool book Tom...learned some things I did not know. I assume with it being Vol. 1 there will be another Art and Evolution book some time in the future.

[17:42:30] Vatruvius Natani never mentioned kids Kiwi, definitely because of the guy thing but so far he has not mentioned a thing about sex either. It is a grey area for him. Especially now with youngNatani coming in.

[17:44:36] SpazztasticKiwi The best moment with her has to be the “do you wanna touch em?”

[17:46:14] SpazztasticKiwi Did offer to swap the ability to reproduce with Kat when she revealed she was sterile though. Which was sweet

[17:47:47] DRAGONTANOPUG It ticks me off that in the tk wiki they say natanis gender is female and mind is male! She is a god damn tomboy which means she still is not a male in the mind!

[17:48:04] SpazztasticKiwi Oh she’s male in mind

[17:48:12] DRAGONTANOPUG Stop

[17:48:26] Bgrmystr2 She is though.

[17:48:29] SpazztasticKiwi It’s literally stated in the comic

[17:48:30] Bgrmystr2 LIterally in the story

[17:48:48] SpazztasticKiwi Jinx Bgr 😀

[17:48:59] Bgrmystr2 s'ok :v

[17:49:06] Bgrmystr2 I won't be getting you a soda or anything

[17:49:09] Vatruvius Totally forgot about that Kiwi. But that was before youngNatani. Who knows how that will effect Natani now. After sleeping with Keith he did say he was not "ready" for that after discovering what was poking him.

[17:49:14] Bgrmystr2 oh hey you're back

[17:49:24] Bgrmystr2 oh wait, you were back before nvm

[17:49:32] Bgrmystr2 I didn't notice sorry :C

[17:49:37] DRAGONTANOPUG Yea its is but, somwhere in chapter 18 or 19 she is reunited with her younger self

[17:49:40] Vatruvius No problem.

[17:49:45] Bgrmystr2 These ORANGE NAME PEOPLE >:T

[17:49:50] Bgrmystr2 :ptv-pouty:

[17:50:08] DRAGONTANOPUG Better?

[17:50:14] Vatruvius She is not reunited, rather rediscovered. Both parts are still seperate.

[17:50:37] Bgrmystr2 yay, so now you'll blend in with those the likes of Beck and such

[17:50:40] SpazztasticKiwi I know who you’re talking about, but I’ve been debating what color Vat’s name is: is it really orangey or more salmon colored?

[17:50:41] Bgrmystr2 who have red names

[17:50:45] DRAGONTANOPUG Ugh even tom said she was a tomboy.

[17:51:08] Bgrmystr2 she can be a tomboy and be partially male mentally at the same time

[17:51:18] Bgrmystr2 I mean, that is how the story was written, and it's understood as such

[17:51:24] Bgrmystr2 it's not really a problem

[17:51:32] DRAGONTANOPUG :ptv-kippi2: does it matter

[17:51:47] Bgrmystr2 to us, no, but to you apparently it does very much so

[17:51:48] SpazztasticKiwi It’s easy to be female but have what can be called/considered “male” thoughts

[17:51:58] Vatruvius So fsr Natani is showing more feminine characteristics but still is male in mind mostly. We have to wait and see how the fusion of these two parts of Natani's personality will effect his gender view and such.

[17:52:36] Bgrmystr2 yeh I'm actually expecting tom to make youngtani a character ppl are gonna really like.. then she's gonna fuse with current natani sometime down the line

[17:52:43] Bgrmystr2 and ppl are gonna sadface

[17:52:54] Bgrmystr2 I mean, it's just a theory, but that's what I think will happen

[17:53:00] SpazztasticKiwi Ppl gonna be mad no matter what he does sadly

[17:53:23] Bgrmystr2 well yeah, but she's not going to be a character for just a few pages or whatever

[17:53:24] DRAGONTANOPUG Im not i rather her be a her

[17:53:30] SpazztasticKiwi I just want to see what happens

[17:53:31] Vatruvius Tom has stated that youngNatani is a tomboy. That we know and that much is obvious. Probably the only thing allowing Natani's two parts to even communicate really.

[17:54:14] Bgrmystr2 I think youngtani is gonna be there for a while, enough time to solidify herself as her own kind of female personality, a look into how natani would be as 100% female mental state

[17:54:43] Vatruvius Thought youngNatani is there, oldNatani is in complete control of his body. YoungNatani foes not.

[17:54:58] Bgrmystr2 it's all mental though, so yknow

[17:54:59] Vatruvius Though*

[17:55:12] Vatruvius does*

[17:55:53] SpazztasticKiwi I can kind of empathize with Nat. You can have moments when you feel more one thing than the other

[17:56:43] Vatruvius I hope they do fuse at some point and Natani bes at least accepting of his female body, or maybe even embrace it. But Natani being masculine and a tomboy esc. is what makes him a likable character to me.

[17:58:00] SpazztasticKiwi Guy or girl, Nat’s good looking

[17:58:54] SpazztasticKiwi Six pack and boobs? No fair 😆

[18:01:00] SpazztasticKiwi Zein’s been growing on me too lately

[18:01:11] SpazztasticKiwi *Zen’s

[18:02:26] Vatruvius It is no fair. Super sexy and can play with himself, with the mind of a guy and all. And he just hides them when he does not want them out.

[18:10:19] SpazztasticKiwi Tom, your characters are too attractive

[18:10:33] Vatruvius Ueah Tom, knock it off!

[18:10:38] Vatruvius Yeah*

[18:10:51] Vatruvius :ptv-snicker:

[18:14:27] SpazztasticKiwi Or at least point me to who they’re based off of in real life

[18:15:09] DRAGONTANOPUG I keep crashing minecraft for changing my skin:ptv-unimpressed:

[18:17:14] Vatruvius That is a you problem.

[18:19:52] SpazztasticKiwi Or ya know do the obvious solution and stop changing skins

[18:21:20] Vatruvius Or you can just use an online skin making service and not have to do it manually.

[18:22:22] Bgrmystr2 there's templates for changing skins, and you should be doing the skin-change through the website

[18:22:31] Vatruvius Okay, back to how sexy Tom's characters are.

[18:22:38] Bgrmystr2 so if done properly, it won't crash, no matter how many times you change skins

[18:24:04] Bgrmystr2 Also, can always check the skindex

[18:24:27] Bgrmystr2 if it still exists, that is :thinking:

[18:28:18] SpazztasticKiwi Daniels is pretty good looking

[18:28:33] SpazztasticKiwi But of course he’s taken

[18:31:33] Vatruvius lol

[18:31:51] SpazztasticKiwi All the hot ones are taken

[18:32:26] Vatruvius Poor Sythe and Red. Not sexy enough for Kiwi.

[18:32:46] CrimsonFall that pizza guy doesnt look bad either

[18:32:58] SpazztasticKiwi Red is nice and all but I’d be more likely to be his friend

[18:33:46] SpazztasticKiwi Yea pizza guy has his own charm too but is he a character or more of a concept for side story

[18:34:17] SpazztasticKiwi Though he does bring pizza along with his good looks so

[18:34:41] SpazztasticKiwi And Sythe’s kinda in the same boat as Red

[18:34:42] Vatruvius Are you hitting on Tom Kiwi! :ptv-ohmy:

[18:35:36] SpazztasticKiwi Due to how awkward that could make this conversation, I believe I’ll plead the 5th

[18:37:55] SpazztasticKiwi Isn’t Red taken, at least in theory?

[18:39:08] Vatruvius Technically, Red and Raine have this thing kinda going on. But that should come to light as more pages of chapter 20 are drawn.

[18:40:37] Vatruvius I think Taine is absolutely awesome. She is really cute and innocent. Red has some serious character development coming along/change happening if he his to date Raine.

[18:45:30] Vatruvius Taine*

[18:45:42] Vatruvius Raine!*

[18:46:00] Vatruvius STOP IT PHONE!

[18:46:25] SpazztasticKiwi Phone: “no. I demand you suffer”

[18:47:43] SpazztasticKiwi I feel Red would be too frustrating to deal with. At least his prejudices. Since he seems to be getting over those tho, who knows

[18:48:40] SpazztasticKiwi But he still seems to be on the track to board the USS Relationship

[18:49:01] Vatruvius Yup.

[18:49:18] Bgrmystr2 I, too, like Taine. Though I believe she may have more of a chance with blue, as he had his character development last time. :ptv-snicker:

[18:50:09] Vatruvius Har har.

[18:50:20] Bgrmystr2 :v

[18:52:12] SpazztasticKiwi :ptv-condescending: I see what you did there

[18:54:02] SpazztasticKiwi The kitten is playing around on the bed and he rolled over and touched Bagheera

[18:54:24] SpazztasticKiwi Bagheera just looked at me like “Mom! He’s touching me!”

[18:56:03] Vatruvius lol

[18:57:53] SpazztasticKiwi If I do keep him, it’s going to be like having two elementary school sons at one time

[19:01:17] Vatruvius Have fun! :ptv-dealwithit:

[19:01:55] SpazztasticKiwi I must resist the urge to say “be nice to your brother”

[19:02:35] SpazztasticKiwi Cause Bagheera is salty

[19:03:21] SpazztasticKiwi And I really don’t need another one

[19:05:12] SpazztasticKiwi But back on the characters, Sythe has an appeal in his naivety

[19:05:55] Vatruvius Sure, he clearly has no romantic interests as of yet which I am fone with. Same with maren and Karen.

[19:06:07] Vatruvius fine* Maren*

[19:06:15] SpazztasticKiwi But he might not necessarily be my age

[19:08:46] SpazztasticKiwi I suspect Maren is kind of a girl who’d be just as happy single and independent for the rest of her life

[19:09:57] SpazztasticKiwi Karen’s gonna need someone young and attentive to keep up with her

[19:10:18] Vatruvius But she is only 16 so...

[19:11:00] SpazztasticKiwi That too. Dating is more of a thing for her rather than meeting someone

[19:11:23] SpazztasticKiwi Though I suspect she has no interest in dating rn like a “normal” teen would

[19:11:41] SpazztasticKiwi Granted she’s not normal in any sense anyway

[19:13:56] Vatruvius She is super cute though.

[19:14:19] SpazztasticKiwi Karen is such a delight. I’d definitely get along with her

[19:16:27] Vatruvius I cannot believe it. Just got my computer back after repairs and the same exact keys are broken again!

[19:16:38] SpazztasticKiwi It’s ghosts

[19:16:55] SpazztasticKiwi Computer’s possessed

[19:18:12] Vatruvius It is not that. The repair list details they replaced the key membranes but that only temporarily solved the issue. Since it is back they will have to replace the entire board. This is so dumb.

[19:19:47] SpazztasticKiwi When did Tom log off

[19:20:10] SpazztasticKiwi Cause he was here at the beginning of the conversation

[19:22:06] Vatruvius He was here for awhile.

[19:23:23] Vatruvius All I want to do is use my computer and play games!

[19:26:08] Bgrmystr2 if you sent it for repair, they should have then replaced the board if they knew that was the problem.

[19:26:21] Bgrmystr2 that's part of 'repairing' the keyboard, thus making it work again

[19:28:46] Vatruvius They replaced the problem keys' membrane.

[19:29:24] Vatruvius At first it worked. But it is following the same path it did last time into complete unresponsiveness.

[19:29:57] Bgrmystr2 if they knew that, they should have replaced the board too :/

[19:30:03] Bgrmystr2 tis part of being a tech

[19:30:30] Bgrmystr2 do you have to give them the laptop back later for them to replace the board? or do you have to pay for that too?

[19:31:17] Vatruvius I guess they thought replacing the membrane was enough. If the tested it then I see why they gave it the okay. It would have needed extensive testing to see if it fixed the problem.

[19:31:56] Bgrmystr2 :thinking:

[19:32:21] Vatruvius All covered under warranty, but I do have to ship it to them to get it repaired. But shipping costs are covered too. Just means I won't have my computer again for a week.

[19:32:39] Bgrmystr2 Ah, well then yeah

[19:32:52] Bgrmystr2 I mean, a lot of good it's doing right now with those keys broken lol

[19:33:09] Vatruvius Going to contact them now actually. Be back in a bit.

[19:37:08] SpazztasticKiwi And where’d Crimson go? All they did was pop in with that pizza guy comment

[19:40:28] Vatruvius Are they not online?

[19:41:09] SpazztasticKiwi Not anymore apparently

[19:41:27] SpazztasticKiwi Just a “I’ll just leave this gem here” and left

[19:42:50] Vatruvius Huh? :thinking:

[19:44:03] SpazztasticKiwi They’re the one that said the pizza guy wasn’t too bad looking

[19:45:01] SpazztasticKiwi And I agreed he has his own charm and that the fact he brings pizza add to it

[19:45:27] SpazztasticKiwi Might be why Tom peaced out

[19:46:06] Vatruvius Okay, new service request put in. This time they said they will request to have the entire keyboard replaced not the membranes.

[19:46:14] Vatruvius lol

[19:46:36] SpazztasticKiwi Or he has stuff to do

[19:46:53] SpazztasticKiwi Maybe second time’s the charm

[19:48:18] Vatruvius Probably had stuff to do.

[19:49:30] SpazztasticKiwi It’s that lawn. Grows like mad

[19:49:47] Vatruvius Not that fast.

[19:50:22] SpazztasticKiwi I know. Only thing I can think of right now

[19:51:09] Vatruvius He could be working on the page he will draw tomorrow.

[19:51:55] SpazztasticKiwi Or it’s grocery day

[19:52:17] SpazztasticKiwi But yeah. Likely debating the page layout

[19:58:21] Bgrmystr2 wait, who left what here?

[19:58:30] Bgrmystr2 I didn't see anyone link anything here

[19:59:01] Vatruvius Not a link, just a comment

[19:59:47] Bgrmystr2 oh what did they say? Cuz I haven't seen anything but like.. us commenting basically all day

[20:01:05] Vatruvius When we were talking about Tom's sexy characters, there was a comment about Tom, the pizza guy.

[20:02:46] Bgrmystr2 :thinking: Well, yknow..

[20:07:18] Vatruvius When my man dog wants food and barks at me, I pick him up and put him in my lap. Begging solved.

[20:19:22] DRAGONTANOPUG Or he just wants love...

[20:21:34] Vatruvius He is not a love dog. He is standoff-ish

[20:25:51] SpazztasticKiwi Cat in dog body

[20:26:57] Vatruvius Except that he hates all cats. He goes crazy, probably because that is one of the things my dad encouraged him to do.

[21:09:39] Vatruvius I am learning HTML now.

[21:16:56] DRAGONTANOPUG I dont wnat to leave for another week. I miss so much when i do.:ptv-sad: but i cant change that...

[21:19:06] DRAGONTANOPUG Still gitbthe same amount of streams as usual...

[21:19:14] DRAGONTANOPUG Got the *

[21:28:25] Vatruvius Tell me about it. This keyboard issue is a pain. Not having my computer for two weeks in a row technically is just annoying.

[22:20:56] NightMeaty22 Hello

[22:28:28] totallynotTrace hi guys

[22:28:32] totallynotTrace hi night

[22:31:35] SpazztasticKiwi 🙃

[22:33:18] SpazztasticKiwi Doing anything interesting tnT?

[22:34:01] totallynotTrace laundry

[22:34:26] totallynotTrace exciting right?

[22:34:31] SpazztasticKiwi Invigorating

[22:34:58] totallynotTrace brb I the dryer just finished

[22:35:11] SpazztasticKiwi Don’t fall in

[22:37:40] SpazztasticKiwi Think I’m gonna sit down and watch Freddy vs Jason

[22:38:06] NightMeaty22 Ok

[22:39:50] totallynotTrace i is back

[22:40:02] SpazztasticKiwi I’ll still be hanging around

[22:40:11] totallynotTrace thats a classic

[22:40:23] Vatruvius If you guys want to check out my awesome work in HTML, in other words a very primitive first time use of coding in it, then click this link and click the green "run" button in the top left.

[22:40:27] Vatruvius https://www.w3schools.com/code/tryit.asp?filename=FQZ6MXH2S8WP

[22:40:36] SpazztasticKiwi It’s basically a big game of tag you’re it

[22:40:49] SpazztasticKiwi With blood

[22:42:06] totallynotTrace I havnt seenn it it years

[22:42:21] totallynotTrace honestly dont remember much of it

[22:42:54] Vatruvius Okay, that is that assignment done.

[22:43:04] Vatruvius Ohh, Tom is back!

[22:43:05] SpazztasticKiwi I vouch for Jason more than Freddy since Freddy was a pedo and Jason was a tragic story

[22:44:12] SpazztasticKiwi I have the platinum double disc copy. Special collection cover

[22:44:25] SpazztasticKiwi One of the three special covers anyway

[22:45:01] totallynotTrace oh and now we all know what Vat goes to school

[22:45:58] totallynotTrace also a fellow community college member

[22:46:43] totallynotTrace good job on your html

[22:46:57] Vatruvius Thanks.

[22:47:31] Vatruvius I like Jason more as well, probably because I own the Friday the 13th game which is just super fun and awesome so...

[22:47:36] SpazztasticKiwi Not bad at all 🤔

[22:47:52] SpazztasticKiwi Reminds me of when I took web design

[22:48:22] Vatruvius I am not a psychopath, I just like brutally murdering all the counselors in unique ways. Totally normal.

[22:48:45] totallynotTrace 100%

[22:49:02] Vatruvius Yeah, that was raw coding in HTML. I know there are a lot of popular web design applications that make it easier and do not require to know or even tough HTML code.

[22:49:14] SpazztasticKiwi The psychopath was his mother. After he died and took his revenge, it should have been done

[22:50:11] SpazztasticKiwi But she kept him going. Cause he always obeys his mother

[22:51:02] Vatruvius If you ever want to play an awesome multiplayer game about horror and Jason in particular, get Friday the 13th: The Game.

[22:51:16] Vatruvius It is on steam and super cool.

[22:51:43] SpazztasticKiwi It’s adorable. I’ve seen it

[22:52:13] Vatruvius Adorable is a very...interesting choice of words to describe that game.

[22:52:38] totallynotTrace I dont think they were aiming for adorable when making a horror game

[22:53:32] totallynotTrace a youtuber im subbed to played it for a while

[22:53:47] totallynotTrace horror isnt really my style

[22:54:16] totallynotTrace but i still found it interesting

[22:54:40] Vatruvius Once you play it a couple times it really is not horror as much as it is just a survival/escape game.

[22:55:12] totallynotTrace My laptop probably cant run it at a playable framerate

[22:55:54] Vatruvius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw7wr4oPQy4

[22:56:00] Vatruvius This video sums it up.

[22:56:04] SpazztasticKiwi As a horror villain, I like Freddy, but Jason’s one of my top favorites

[22:56:42] SpazztasticKiwi Of course there’s also the Jeepers Creepers monster

[22:56:57] SpazztasticKiwi And Mike Myers

[22:58:18] totallynotTrace "The least happy camper in film history" lol

[23:00:58] SpazztasticKiwi I want to see Mike go up against Freddy and Jason

[23:01:38] Vatruvius "Scouring around...blah blah blah...until whoever was lucky enough to get the fun character shoes up to beat your ass."

[23:01:50] totallynotTrace wait wait wait wait

[23:01:51] Vatruvius shows*

[23:02:07] totallynotTrace so therers an archery range at the camp

[23:02:14] totallynotTrace can you shoot jason?

[23:02:23] SpazztasticKiwi Jason can’t die

[23:02:23] Vatruvius You can!

[23:02:41] SpazztasticKiwi His only weakness is water. Freddy’s is fire

[23:02:45] Vatruvius With shotguns, to the face, does absolutely nothing but stuns him shortly!

[23:03:08] totallynotTrace oh

[23:03:16] Vatruvius In this game you actually swim around as Jason, er...rather walk around on the water bed when campers try to swim.

[23:03:47] SpazztasticKiwi The only way I’ve seen them get rid of Jason is to tie him up and sink him back to the bottom of the lake

[23:03:51] Vatruvius There is a way to kill Jason, but it is not easy.

[23:04:07] Vatruvius All in-game by the way.

[23:04:08] totallynotTrace i feel like the steamer ive been watching has been holding out

[23:04:39] Vatruvius Watch Ohmwrecker. He has like 80+ videos on it I think.

[23:04:51] DRAGONTANOPUG Yay vanoss stuff!

[23:04:55] totallynotTrace jesus

[23:05:08] totallynotTrace vanoss? who that?

[23:05:39] DRAGONTANOPUG Search up VANOSSGAMINg on youtube

[23:05:43] Vatruvius Vanoss is one of the top youtubers in the world. He does not play Friday the 13th though.

[23:05:48] DRAGONTANOPUG Vanossgaming*

[23:06:03] DRAGONTANOPUG Hes in top 10

[23:06:07] Vatruvius He mostly does gary's mod stuff.

[23:06:36] DRAGONTANOPUG Its funny as shit tho

[23:06:52] totallynotTrace how does he have 22.8 mil subs and i vaugly recognize the logo?

[23:07:29] DRAGONTANOPUG Idk u know who pewdiepie is?

[23:07:38] Vatruvius Because his stuff is really funny. But watch Ohmwrecker if you want to see more about Friday the 13th, he still uploads the occasional video now and then.

[23:08:18] totallynotTrace yeah i unsubscribed from pewds a while ago. his videos just became stuff i didnt like

[23:08:33] DRAGONTANOPUG 2013 pewds?

[23:08:55] totallynotTrace well i was in highschool

[23:09:03] DRAGONTANOPUG He lost 42 k last sat.

[23:09:11] DRAGONTANOPUG Didnt gain any

[23:09:20] totallynotTrace I subbed to him early high school

[23:09:29] totallynotTrace in 2011

[23:09:34] Vatruvius I never really liked Pewdiepie. Just not my type of content. And 42k is nothing to what he has so...

[23:09:51] DRAGONTANOPUG Do you know how much he has trace?

[23:10:02] SpazztasticKiwi YouTube purge

[23:10:04] totallynotTrace right now? massive

[23:10:17] SpazztasticKiwi Clears inactive and spam accounts

[23:10:23] DRAGONTANOPUG 61 million

[23:10:26] Vatruvius Ohh yeah, there is that too.

[23:10:33] totallynotTrace isnt it 50s oh my

[23:10:40] totallynotTrace oh my

[23:10:50] DRAGONTANOPUG Nope gained another 10

[23:11:48] SpazztasticKiwi I forgot about the nude scenes in this movie

[23:12:04] totallynotTrace 62,401428

[23:12:08] Vatruvius In a Jason type film, nude everywhere.

[23:12:12] DRAGONTANOPUG Do we need to know?

[23:12:26] Vatruvius We do, just not you TANO

[23:12:27] SpazztasticKiwi Jason likes the booty I guess

[23:13:02] totallynotTrace ummm

[23:13:10] DRAGONTANOPUG ...

[23:13:13] totallynotTrace social blade is slightly broken

[23:13:26] Vatruvius There are some images/art in the game that pop up while loading. Not full nudity, but you know.

[23:13:50] Vatruvius You can probably just image search "Friday the 13th: The Game" and see them pop up.

[23:14:06] SpazztasticKiwi Enough skin to cover the kids’ eyes

[23:14:12] Vatruvius I would expect them to be popular searchers for...reasons.

[23:14:14] DRAGONTANOPUG You two can whisper

[23:14:14] totallynotTrace on 2018-04-18 he had -228,181 views

[23:14:26] DRAGONTANOPUG Damn

[23:14:29] totallynotTrace i dont think they need to

[23:14:33] Vatruvius How can you have negative views?

[23:14:38] totallynotTrace idk

[23:14:51] totallynotTrace https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC-lHJZR3Gqxm24_Vd_AJ5Yw/monthly

[23:15:53] DRAGONTANOPUG Hes dead or dying

[23:15:59] Vatruvius That has to be a glitch in the system. That is not even possible.

[23:16:29] SpazztasticKiwi YouTube hasn’t had itself together for a few years now

[23:16:54] Vatruvius You mean when Google acquired them?

[23:17:01] totallynotTrace as i said. Slightly broken

[23:17:51] totallynotTrace wait social blade is owned by google?

[23:18:46] Vatruvius I do not know what Social Blade is, but Google, or rather Alphabet, owns a lot of things.

[23:19:02] SpazztasticKiwi Teens are at the cornfield party. Jason’s about to have his own party

[23:19:08] DRAGONTANOPUG Isnt everythIng on google owned by google..

[23:19:44] totallynotTrace i just looked it up and im not seeing anythig about SB being acuired by any big company

[23:21:07] Vatruvius That is not how companies work TANO. It is a complex subject, something you will just barely touch on in economics if at all in high school.

[23:22:09] totallynotTrace but it does seem that alphabet wants to own it all

[23:22:27] totallynotTrace and thats not how search engines work

[23:25:18] totallynotTrace @DRAGONTANOPUG this should explain how search engines work fairly well. https://youtu.be/ADvI44Sap3g

[23:25:36] DRAGONTANOPUG Ah

[23:26:30] SpazztasticKiwi Gee a flaming masked guy with a machete sure does get people’s attention

[23:29:22] totallynotTrace https://youtu.be/suUxA3sS2zg

[23:33:28] Dadrobit Bleh.

[23:33:36] Dadrobit Just finished my final exam.

[23:33:53] Dadrobit 2 hours for 150 questions.

[23:33:56] SpazztasticKiwi Did you die?

[23:34:01] Dadrobit Feeling burnt.

[23:34:15] Dadrobit No, close, but no.

[23:34:21] totallynotTrace even if you did well, I agree that exams are exeedingly bleh

[23:34:31] Dadrobit Got an 89% on it. Enough to maintain the A overall.

[23:34:42] TheBeckoner Kit kats dont bounce.

[23:34:43] TheBeckoner Hello.

[23:34:47] totallynotTrace ok so thats good

[23:34:48] totallynotTrace hi

[23:34:57] Dadrobit Also, howdy y'all.

[23:35:09] totallynotTrace hi beck, hi..... Dad

[23:35:11] SpazztasticKiwi So you lived

[23:35:17] TheBeckoner Howdy, you.

[23:35:28] TheBeckoner He is ghost like Bgr now.

[23:35:46] Bgrmystr2 :ghost::ghost::ghost:

[23:36:11] DRAGONTANOPUG Well crap my phone doesnt work on picaro

[23:36:24] totallynotTrace So dad and bgr are just the ghosts in the machine? errors in the code?

[23:36:29] Dadrobit I feel like I need to eat something now.

[23:36:59] Dadrobit I usually don't do bad on exams, but that just felt gross.

[23:37:42] Dadrobit Brb, gonna get something to fill the void.

[23:39:30] SpazztasticKiwi Dunno why but I’ve been waking up with a sore throat and fog head in the mornings

[23:39:51] totallynotTrace ooh

[23:40:51] totallynotTrace for some reason for the past month ive been sleeping with my mouth open and i wake up and my lips are so dry they bleed

[23:41:16] SpazztasticKiwi I wear chapstick to bed

[23:41:45] totallynotTrace although ill take it over the warning signs of a sore throat

[23:42:28] totallynotTrace i have bad habits and bite my lip so chapstic burns

[23:42:43] totallynotTrace ok not full burn

[23:42:49] totallynotTrace but it stings

[23:43:20] SpazztasticKiwi I use a coating chapstick

[23:43:32] SpazztasticKiwi Helps if your lips are split or pealing

[23:43:43] totallynotTrace oh fantastic

[23:43:55] Vatruvius I use to get a sore throat from sleeping with my mouth open. It dried my throat and that is why it was soar. Not sure if that is what is happening to you but maybe. A humidify should help if this is the case.

[23:43:59] SpazztasticKiwi Heals and gives moisture

[23:44:24] totallynotTrace although i think my lips wouldnt bleed if i didnt bite them

[23:44:38] TheBeckoner Chapstick is a wonderful thing.

[23:44:47] Vatruvius That would be a wise deduction.

[23:45:18] totallynotTrace Q: why am i bleeding

[23:45:40] totallynotTrace A: because you just ate your skin. Duh

[23:47:07] SpazztasticKiwi I used to chew my fingers

[23:47:22] SpazztasticKiwi Not just my nails, the skin around them

[23:47:27] totallynotTrace oh

[23:47:27] Vatruvius Many bad habits here.

[23:48:22] SpazztasticKiwi I stopped shortly after high school

[23:48:26] TheBeckoner Yeah I used to too

[23:48:37] TheBeckoner I stopped after 7th or so grade

[23:48:46] totallynotTrace my brother teases me that i use nail clippers for my nails instead of just biting them. even after explaining this to him he doesnt understand my tooth gap is too big

[23:49:39] totallynotTrace anyone else lurking that has bad habbits?

[23:53:10] Bgrmystr2 he teases you for being a normal person and using nail clippers..?

[23:53:17] Bgrmystr2 so.. could he be any more of a child :v

[23:53:55] SpazztasticKiwi There’s people that lose their fingers from nail biting and infection

[23:54:29] Vatruvius No think you, I will pass on that.

[23:54:36] totallynotTrace well hes older, is in a relationship, is a dad of 2 kids, and works in construction so if teasing me for that makes him a kid.... HES A BIG KID

[23:55:35] Bgrmystr2 yeah, I stand by my statement lol

[23:55:39] Bgrmystr2 xD

[23:56:30] Vatruvius My dad is 51 and he acts like a huge child a lot of the time so...

[23:56:45] Bgrmystr2 yeh older people aren't immune to it

[23:56:53] Bgrmystr2 it happens

[23:57:58] SpazztasticKiwi Who doesn’t have a little kid inside them?

[23:58:14] Bgrmystr2 that's different I feel

[23:58:16] totallynotTrace voldemort