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◄ Chat Log 05.04.2018 ►

[00:10:28] Bigboi182 Jeez, sucks to be you.
[00:10:51] Bigboi182 Of all the things that had to break...
[00:17:25] Vatruvius At least I still have power and internet.
[00:19:58] Bigboi182 True.
[00:20:16] Bigboi182 See, that's it! Look on the positive side.
[00:23:54] TheBeckoner Download some shower
[00:26:54] Vatruvius Don't think that will work the way I want it to.
[00:28:56] Bigboi182 Yeah.
[00:29:20] Bigboi182 I'mma get some shuteye.
[00:29:25] Bigboi182 See ya!
[00:29:47] Bigboi182 Hope your shower gets fixed Vat.
[00:29:56] Bigboi182 You need the hot shower.
[00:32:05] Vatruvius Byr Bigboi!
[00:32:13] Vatruvius Bye*
[03:21:44] SpazztasticKiwi My flight’s in two hours and ten minutes
[10:06:43] NightMeaty22 good morning
[10:23:55] TrexM morning
[10:26:40] Vatruvius It is definitely not a good morning. :ptv-unimpressed:
[10:44:35] Vatruvius Construction traffic. :ptv-sad:
[10:50:41] Vatruvius :ptv-whiny:
[11:21:22] Bigboi182 Morning chaps!
[11:21:39] Bigboi182 Stuck in traffic, eh Vat?
[11:21:52] Bigboi182 You've had a bad 2 days...
[11:28:16] Vatruvius And I am late to class...gotta run.
[11:37:33] Bigboi182 OK, get to class.
[12:54:30] Vatruvius And class is over. Tge week is done and now I can drive home and relax. :ptv-hearts:
[12:54:38] Vatruvius The*
[12:59:14] Bigboi182 Yay!
[12:59:23] Bigboi182 But still no water...
[13:07:53] Vatruvius We had a guy fill up our 2500 gallon tank so I will have water for a few days. Enough to get the well pump replaced.
[13:22:29] Bigboi182 That'll do for now then...
[14:12:16] Vatruvius My dad called the well service that drilled the well in the first place and are pulling up the 800 foot line as I type. Not only do we have water but out well should be opperational by the end of the day.
[14:13:57] Vatruvius And on the drive back home I had a really cool vision of a game I have been wanted to create for over a year now...time to bust out my dusty mechanical pencils, put on some music, and go through about 20 pieces of paper trying to draw it.
[15:13:50] Bigboi182 I've had those visions all my life bro...
[15:14:06] Bigboi182 Flashback to the failed uses of RPG Maker...
[15:27:59] Bigboi182 Hello Torque~
[15:29:51] Vatruvius And I am shit at drawing what is in my head...why can't there just be a machine that sees what your vision is and make it. That and...I am a very inexperienced drawer.
[15:59:23] Vatruvius I will give drawing my vision another chance later...I got a rough sketch that reminds me of what the vision was but it will take some time to get it to look like what I want it to.
[16:04:42] Bigboi182 I have ALWAYS had that disappointment. I am currently making my comic called 'Roomies' and it is definitely NOT what I wanted it to look like.
[16:05:03] Bigboi182 I've tried to draw TK fanart and it looks awful.
[16:05:38] Bigboi182 See? https://carlitob1010.deviantart.com/art/20180318-191757-736160230
[16:06:02] Bigboi182 It's pretty bad...
[16:06:34] Bigboi182 So don't beat up yourself... There are people who are MUCH worse off...
[16:08:27] Vatruvius Future Yoda Keith...:ptv-hearts: I understand though...I actually am pretty good at drawing it just takes ma a really long time to complete something.
[16:08:39] Vatruvius me*
[16:24:03] Bigboi182 There you go! that's much better.
[16:24:16] Bigboi182 I TOLD you my drawing would suck...
[16:27:04] Bgrmystr2 You should probably focus on speed before quality, Vatru
[16:27:39] Bgrmystr2 Quality will improve regardless
[16:28:17] Bgrmystr2 but the faster you work on stuff, the faster you finish, and the faster your quality improves
[16:36:03] Bigboi182 I have more pictures of my comic if you want to see it...
[16:36:15] Bigboi182 Only IF you want to...
[16:37:42] Bigboi182 Be warned, some of the pictures are REALLY blurry...
[16:40:22] WIPKING Lol watching goonies and chunk just smashed his pizza and coke amd the glass.
[16:40:33] WIPKING No...
[16:40:47] WIPKING On*
[16:42:06] Bigboi182 What?
[16:42:55] Bigboi182 You really do watch some random stuff, not gonna lie...
[16:46:21] WIPKING The Goonies isnt random
[16:47:06] WIPKING Its a 80s movies
[16:52:07] Bigboi182 I see...
[17:20:02] Vatruvius I am not much of an artist Bgr...this is one of the first times I ever thought about using my drawing skills for anything in the last two years since I had to draw for courses I took in college. I only too the one course and it just was not for me.
[17:25:35] Bgrmystr2 Not all classes will be ideal for everyone
[17:25:48] Bgrmystr2 but that doesn't mean what they would be for isn't right for you
[17:32:14] Vatruvius What? That statement confuses me Bgr. What I know is that I am not a creative/art person. I do not doodle or anything...I have a creative mind for content like D&D and the world of this video game I had a vision of.
[17:33:02] Vatruvius When it comes to drawing I do have skills do to how my mind works but I have very little experience and it certainly would not be my career. Maybe a hobby later on...but not my career.
[17:33:08] Vatruvius due*
[17:33:38] Bgrmystr2 If it confuses you, stop thinking about it so hard. :P You taking one course that didn't suit you doesn't mean that career isn't for you. It's just the class wasn't for you. There's a difference.
[17:33:43] Bgrmystr2 Not all classes are made equal
[17:34:22] Bgrmystr2 being an artist can mean many different things. And it's not like being an artist wouldn't help you making games like D&D and such.
[17:34:35] Vatruvius I know that...that particular class was the beginning to my Industrial Design major.
[17:35:32] Vatruvius Now I am leaning towards programming but I will probably lead a team of people to bring this game I am thinking of to life. I like to create...but art is just not the most efficient method for me to do that.
[17:49:50] WIPKING Hosariconachotacocasadeamandillajones
[17:50:18] WIPKING Jose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula Jones
[18:39:54] WIPKING Whos still here
[18:42:54] WIPKING Well i can say whatever i want
[18:43:01] Bgrmystr2 Noone is here.
[18:43:04] WIPKING Oh
[18:43:06] Bgrmystr2 Not even you.
[18:43:10] WIPKING Damn
[18:43:13] WIPKING Mind blow
[18:43:20] Bgrmystr2 :v
[18:43:47] WIPKING Still use logic tho its not funny when nobody doea
[18:43:51] WIPKING Does*
[18:43:53] w0lfmare :cw0lfmare-Sylvblep:
[18:45:50] Vatruvius Hey w0lf! :D
[18:46:01] Vatruvius Tom is here too...hi!
[18:47:37] WIPKING I wish i could support twokinds but because im pore i ........ well its not that i cant support, its that i have to ask my parents before i spend money, and asking parents for money to support a furry web comic is a bit embarassing.
[18:48:27] Vatruvius My parents cannot believe I would donate money to anyone...they really do not care who. I think donating money to people really is a new generation thing.
[18:48:28] WIPKING But i can say thanks to tom and give him a support that is worth more than any amount of money,
[18:48:52] w0lfmare Just tell them it's a manga
[18:48:56] w0lfmare Problem solved
[18:49:07] Vatruvius Nah...just the money WIP...nothing else.
[18:49:17] WIPKING Wow
[18:50:10] w0lfmare :cw0lfmare-AriahHappy:
[18:50:19] WIPKING The problem with saying its manga is that they understand it more than i do. But i guess its worthnthe shot
[18:50:31] WIPKING Hey vat.....
[18:51:32] WIPKING @Vatruvius you know that World at War Zombies video that Vanoss created with Wildcat and at the end of the video he tells us the name of a character in a play he created
[18:53:03] WIPKING The name was
[18:53:06] WIPKING Jose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula Jones
[18:53:08] Vatruvius He makes a lot of World at War Zombies videos with Wildcat...which one. Also...I have not seen any of those videos in a long time.
[18:53:12] WIPKING Jose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula Jones
[18:55:54] WIPKING Great now the whole shat thinks im wierd
[18:56:02] WIPKING Weird*
[19:03:14] SpazztasticKiwi I don’t like planes
[19:03:23] WIPKING Ok?
[19:04:56] SpazztasticKiwi But Boston’s nice
[19:06:09] Bgrmystr2 Yeah Boston is cool
[19:06:11] Bgrmystr2 been there before
[19:06:59] SpazztasticKiwi Isao Takahata passed away today though
[19:10:15] Vatruvius Who?
[19:13:38] WIPKING Gunna be honest im expecting a stream...
[19:14:01] Vatruvius You should settle on a name color.
[19:16:34] WIPKING I did
[19:16:36] WIPKING This red
[19:17:28] SpazztasticKiwi Isao was the co-creator/director of My Neighbor Tortoro
[19:17:43] SpazztasticKiwi *Totoro
[19:17:56] SpazztasticKiwi This phone hates foreign names
[19:19:10] WIPKING Turn off auto correct then
[19:19:34] Vatruvius Cannot say I am familiar with that. Actually...I am not familiar with most things brought up in this chat.
[19:19:47] SpazztasticKiwi It’s more useful than aggravating
[19:20:21] SpazztasticKiwi I saw it on Tom’s profile on TK’s site. It’s a sweet movie
[19:20:35] Vatruvius This is true Kiwi...more useful than aggravating.
[19:20:36] WIPKING Whats it about
[19:21:22] Vatruvius Wikipedia said it had to do with two daughters of a professor talking to wood spirits in some part of Japan.
[19:21:28] SpazztasticKiwi You’ll have to look up the movie’s description. I’m no good with that
[19:22:07] SpazztasticKiwi But I really liked it. My friend and I just found out when we got back to the hotel
[19:22:45] Vatruvius When will that be?
[19:23:14] SpazztasticKiwi Getting back to the hotel? We’re back already
[19:23:55] Vatruvius But you just said you and your friend just found out when you would get back?
[19:24:43] TomFurson Do you guys live here?
[19:24:50] SpazztasticKiwi We found out when we got back to the hotel - in other words, sat down and checked our phones
[19:24:52] MarvTheHugPharaoh yes
[19:24:58] Vatruvius Not...Bgr does. He often let's us stay over though.
[19:25:01] SpazztasticKiwi No we’re visiting Boston
[19:25:54] WIPKING Lol
[19:26:15] Bgrmystr2 I do, @TomFurson :v
[19:26:48] Bgrmystr2 also, I fixed the pizza cooker in your room @MarvTheHugPharaoh :P
[19:27:03] MarvTheHugPharaoh \o/
[19:27:20] Bgrmystr2 Victim of one too many doors being kicked in.
[19:27:33] WIPKING Good news guys, i got my dad to let me stay at my moms house so i wont miss the next strams this weekend.:grinning:
[19:27:37] WIPKING :grinning:
[19:27:54] WIPKING Streams*
[19:27:56] Bgrmystr2 Is that good news? :thinking:
[19:28:00] Vatruvius You cannot stream at your dad's house?
[19:28:10] Vatruvius Or watch streams rather?
[19:28:27] WIPKING Yes well im ground cause of grades
[19:28:34] WIPKING My mom is much nicer
[19:28:45] WIPKING Bgr sorry its good news for me
[19:28:54] Bgrmystr2 Well that's what matters, right?
[19:29:00] Bgrmystr2 good news for you
[19:29:05] WIPKING Not you
[19:29:22] Bgrmystr2 I mean, it doesn't affect me any, so it's not really good or bad
[19:29:29] Bgrmystr2 :u
[19:29:54] WIPKING Just news as oogway says in kungfoo panda
[19:30:06] Bgrmystr2 I'd agree with that.
[19:30:19] Vatruvius To be honest...getting good grades is actually really important and you should focus on school before watching streams. iliar uploads them on youtube so you can always watch them when you have finished your studies.
[19:30:34] Vatruvius You will regret not getting good grades later in life...trust me.
[19:31:08] Bgrmystr2 :thinking: I would agree w/ that to a point Vatru
[19:31:40] Bgrmystr2 I guess it does matter till near the end of highschool when you kinda know what you're good at and what you wanna do
[19:31:56] Bgrmystr2 and then what you want to do and what you actually do end up being different
[19:32:15] Bgrmystr2 but of course, none of that really is affected by the grades you make in school, you just need to learn basic stuff
[19:33:01] Bgrmystr2 a lot of it helps though
[19:33:10] Bgrmystr2 so it's better than not knowing.
[19:34:40] Vatruvius The grades you get affects your chances of getting into colleges. Will you get into the college meant for you and your interests or into a basic college that will get some BS degree, may not be the one you want.
[19:35:07] Vatruvius It really does matter if you plan on going to college. If not...it is good to exercise self discipline.
[19:35:58] TomFurson OOOo College talk
[19:36:00] Bgrmystr2 Most colleges are going to be trash though. Some people need it, some people don't, but for the most part it won't teach you what you really need to know cuz you can't learn that in a school setting.
[19:36:31] Bgrmystr2 best way of learning has always been on the field experiencing whatever it is firsthand.
[19:36:49] TomFurson I mostly agree
[19:36:58] Vatruvius Yes...but you cannot not get a good job or even a good paying one without a BS degree.
[19:37:10] Bgrmystr2 fastest way to make mistakes, fastest way to realize they were mistakes, and fastest way to not make the same mistakes again
[19:37:44] Bgrmystr2 That may be true for the stereotypical job, Vatru, but there are exceptions across the board for most things
[19:38:36] Bgrmystr2 the only reason they look for college degrees is because they look for people with knowledge. If you can prove you've already got knowledge that surpasses a college degree, then it's not a difficult choice for them
[19:40:14] Vatruvius Actually...I have done a great deal of research on this subject Bgr. From the 12+ speeches I have gone to with employers along with the research I have done...if you do not have a degree and someone else does...your resume will not even be looked at.
[19:41:01] Vatruvius In this world...for my generation...degrees are very important. If you do get hired without a degree...you will payed less by a substantial amount legally. Nothing you can do about it.
[19:42:00] Vatruvius That is if you get hired at all. Some fields care less about degrees because they could really use new people in the field, I get that, but if you want anything above a minimum wage job you need a degree of some kind.
[19:42:38] Bgrmystr2 Research is nice, but I've already seen what happens in the field. Like I said, It's true for most stereotypical jobs, but there are exceptions for most things.
[19:42:42] Vatruvius You are lucky Bgr because you have a work history...I would be hard pressed to find any job without a degree.
[19:42:50] Dadrobit Unpopular opinion: Don't waste time with a 4 year BA. Go get certifications in somehting like welding at a trade school instead.
[19:43:10] MarvTheHugPharaoh welding pays super well
[19:43:11] Dadrobit something*
[19:43:44] Vatruvius Certificates are good...I have some of those offered at my community college I am attending right now.
[19:43:47] Bgrmystr2 When I grow up, I'm gonna be a professional anime watcher :V
[19:43:52] Bgrmystr2 or whatever.
[19:43:56] Bgrmystr2 :thinking:
[19:44:37] Dadrobit Pops teaches it at high scool and college, makes his more dedicated kids get at least basic certifications in high school. They get out into the real world with $40+ an hour jobs.
[19:45:25] Dadrobit He's a super propponent of not going for BA's in general.
[19:45:49] Dadrobit Unless you intend on going for a Masters, you're just another brick in the wall.
[19:46:03] Vatruvius That is my point though...without a degree of some kind or a certificate at the very least...you will never get a job paying over $20 an hour unless you build up a decade of job history.
[19:46:47] Dadrobit It's of course better than just not having a post basic degree, but if you're going to spend time/money after high school, spend it on getting certified in a specific vocation.
[19:47:18] Bgrmystr2 You do realize, Vatru, that most people who finish college still end up working their way up from the bottom of the totem poll
[19:47:46] Bgrmystr2 college degrees and all that stuff, do not ever guarentee a well-paying job
[19:51:25] Dadrobit They do, overall and in general, provide a higher wages throughout your life and have a better guarantee of having a full time job.
[19:51:35] Dadrobit https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=77
[19:52:23] Dadrobit provide hihger*
[19:52:27] Dadrobit higher*
[19:52:52] Bgrmystr2 yeah higher, by a bit
[19:53:01] Bgrmystr2 interesting how the lines are so close though
[19:53:39] Dadrobit 20% more isn't exactly close.
[19:54:19] WIPKING Meh brain hurts from you guys
[19:54:38] Dadrobit Not to mention the $19.5k a year that the BA earn over HS on average.
[19:54:57] Dadrobit 64% higher yo.
[19:55:40] Dadrobit Sure, higher education isn't for everyone, but on average, it is absolutey beneficial.
[19:55:53] Bgrmystr2 highschool and/or GED is less than 10% from the college degrees for the most part
[19:57:16] Bgrmystr2 probably around 14% at the highest difference, vs I'd say 6 or 7% at it's closest
[19:57:27] Bgrmystr2 it's only a few years of data though so
[19:57:29] Dadrobit Ah, indeed, I was looking at the hard red line.
[19:57:54] Dadrobit It's the most recent data and it nearly covers an entire generation....
[19:57:57] Bgrmystr2 but yeah college is definitely consistantly higher
[19:58:17] Bgrmystr2 obv dropping out of high school is not great
[20:56:14] Vatruvius And I am back.
[21:01:42] TorqueEmUp I mean as long as you get your GED, it doesn't really matter
[21:09:22] WIPKING Why is tom here
[21:09:46] Bgrmystr2 It's his stream p[age
[21:09:50] WIPKING Hes not going to start streaming at 10 is he
[21:09:51] Bgrmystr2 why would he not be here?
[21:10:04] WIPKING Or 11
[21:13:07] Vatruvius Tom lucks in the chat to watch us...or he just likes to read what we talk about when he can.
[21:13:25] WIPKING @TorqueEmUp you never was talking about college so you should have just left out "i mean"
[21:13:26] Vatruvius I think it is the latter more than the formor.
[21:13:54] Vatruvius You get your GED in college WIP
[21:14:20] WIPKING He was never in the conbersation so why did he say i mean
[21:14:21] Bgrmystr2 No you don't Vatru
[21:15:25] Bgrmystr2 GED is a test that is equivilant to a high school diploma.
[21:15:41] Bgrmystr2 You can probably get it at a college, but you don't get it going to college
[21:15:51] Vatruvius Your General Education Degree...like an Associates Degree?
[21:15:57] Bgrmystr2 no
[21:16:02] Bgrmystr2 That's different
[21:16:07] Bgrmystr2 a GED is not a college degree
[21:16:11] Bgrmystr2 it's a high school degree
[21:16:31] Vatruvius I thought he was talking about finishing your general ed.
[21:16:34] Bgrmystr2 instead of gratuating high school, some people get a GED
[21:16:36] TomFurson You are still talking about education?
[21:17:16] Vatruvius It was over a long time ago then WIP brought it back up.
[21:17:22] Bgrmystr2 and yeah Torque was talking about finishing education. xD
[21:17:24] Vatruvius Hmm...
[21:17:34] Bgrmystr2 All he's saying is that if you don't finish high school, then get your GED
[21:17:36] Bgrmystr2 and it's fine
[21:17:48] TomFurson you can get a GED.
[21:17:48] Bgrmystr2 it's an equivilant degree in all aspects
[21:18:13] TomFurson You have to pass a test if I am correct
[21:18:17] Bgrmystr2 Yes you do
[21:18:29] Bgrmystr2 I had to get one, so I'd know.
[21:18:44] Bgrmystr2 Unfortunately, not something I chose willingly.
[21:18:46] TomFurson Ya I went to community college for High School and got my AA
[21:19:11] Vatruvius Okay...in that case I say you should get something better than a diploma/GED but I know it is not for everyone.
[21:19:39] Vatruvius Same TomFurson...got my Natural Science AS
[21:19:48] TomFurson It was a pain. Also it depends on the state you live in
[21:20:26] TomFurson I almost went with an AS, but I would have had to say at CC longer
[21:21:05] Vatruvius Yes...very hard...but I learned a lot and I am significantly more mature than the majority of incoming college students...makes me feel like I went back to high school.
[21:21:17] Bgrmystr2 The difference for a Bachelor's and a Masters or higher is not that much higher than simply high school / GED education.
[21:21:25] Bgrmystr2 it's how you use it
[21:21:55] TomFurson I know right. I hate first year college students
[21:22:12] TomFurson I was in a drom full of them. It was the worst
[21:22:14] Vatruvius Well...a diploma and GED is your general ed at the high school level while a Bachelors and Masters has a focus in a particular field. So not really that same...
[21:22:56] Bgrmystr2 noone said they were the same xD
[21:23:12] TomFurson Also you can only get Bachelors and Masters at 4 year universities
[21:23:33] TomFurson If you get an AA or AS the time is generally cut in half
[21:23:34] Vatruvius You just said there were not that much of a difference Bgr.
[21:23:55] Bgrmystr2 yeah, I did. Did you not click the link that dadrobit sent earlier?
[21:24:29] Vatruvius Yes...unless the degree you are trying to get follows a linear path of class to class so it does not cut time. Depends on the degree. But...it does mean when you try to get your degree you can just focus on your degree classes.
[21:25:01] Bgrmystr2 then you'd know what I was referring to if you clicked it, cuz there's a very small percentage of difference.
[21:25:19] Bgrmystr2 considering the massive expenditure of money and time between the two
[21:25:39] Vatruvius I know what the link was about. And...the difference might not seem like a lot but it is actually quite a bit in the real world. On average...someone with a degree earns $1M more in their lifetime compared to someone without a degree. That is a lot of $.
[21:26:02] Bgrmystr2 the link has nothing to do with amount of money earned
[21:26:07] TomFurson But that is on a life time
[21:26:26] Bgrmystr2 and yeah that's a lifetime. that's not a lot realistically speaking
[21:27:50] Bgrmystr2 The difference of $1m is about $8 an hr for 60 year worklife
[21:28:11] Vatruvius You have your opinion and I have mine Bgr. Though a higher education is not for everyone there is definitely a difference and it is noticeably difference. That biggest thing that make those difference not seem like a lot is the improvement to lifestyle.
[21:28:28] Bgrmystr2 and the differences some people make surpass $20-30 an hour difference
[21:28:52] Bgrmystr2 This is not about opinions, Vatru. This is just about you not realizing what I'm talking about, so I'm explaining it.
[21:29:33] Bgrmystr2 But if you wanna write it off as "opinion" then that's on you.
[21:29:42] Bgrmystr2 Least I tried. :
[21:29:43] Bgrmystr2 :v
[21:32:43] Vatruvius No...it is an opinion Bgr. You are older...you have years of job experience and are successful to your standers of success.
[21:33:09] Vatruvius For my generation of people coming out of high school...get a job at all let alone one that allows you to pay all of your bills is nearly impossible without a degree. That is my generation's world.
[21:33:22] Bgrmystr2 I did not know that making a note of a website where some lines are closer than other lines is opinion.
[21:33:41] Bgrmystr2 :thinking::thumbsup:
[21:33:52] TorqueEmUp I seem to be doing fine without only a high school diploma
[21:33:59] TorqueEmUp with*
[21:34:07] Vatruvius This is a matter of opinion. And I understand that education is not for everyone...I want to end the subject but since you think your opinion is fact I have to come in here say it is not. The world is changing...it it is hard to live at all with a degree.
[21:34:12] TorqueEmUp stupid phone, tried to type too quick.
[21:35:29] Bgrmystr2 Vatru, if you're going to actually accuse me of something I didn't do, at least do a better job of reading what I wrote and putting two and two together? :/
[21:35:52] Bgrmystr2 cuz what you're saying and what I'm saying are two different conversations
[21:36:03] Bgrmystr2 It's like I'm talkin to the wall..
[21:36:27] Vatruvius You literally said that this is not opinion but me seeing how it actually is and I am here to tell you that I have spent my entire life navigating what life is like for my generation.
[21:36:41] Bgrmystr2 I'm doin alright as well, Torque, but it's not easy sometimes
[21:36:47] Vatruvius Do not write off another persons experiences as nothing.
[21:36:55] TorqueEmUp agreed bgr
[21:37:09] Bgrmystr2 Vatru, did you bother to even try to realize what I was talking about when I said that it wasn't opinion.
[21:37:14] NightMeaty22 d's welcome to McDo
[21:37:26] TorqueEmUp I lost my security job, and not really want to get into that stressful field, I just been doing DoorDash
[21:37:53] Bgrmystr2 that sucks :c
[21:37:54] TorqueEmUp work when I want, for how long I want (within reason).
[21:38:04] Vatruvius I was simply trying to enlighten to you what my life has been like. I will just come back later when our heads cool down.
[21:38:26] TorqueEmUp cost of living around here is quite low, so that helps.
[21:38:35] Bgrmystr2 Vatru, you think I don't know what it's like to not have job cuz market is shit lol xD
[21:39:17] TorqueEmUp agreed, I know countless people with degrees out of college that haven't even used those degrees.
[21:39:23] Bgrmystr2 All I was saying is that a highschool Diploma / GED is not too far behind a college degree in terms of amount of ppl getting full time jobs lol
[21:39:28] Bgrmystr2 and that's not opinion
[21:39:30] TorqueEmUp because the job market blows chunks
[21:39:36] Bgrmystr2 it's from the fact page that dadrobit linked.
[21:40:00] TorqueEmUp Not fond of going into debt for some extra education
[21:40:42] Bgrmystr2 Honestly, I wish the subject "howe 2 conversation" was a high school class.
[21:41:14] TorqueEmUp I probably wouldn't have paid attention if it was
[21:41:17] TorqueEmUp :P
[21:41:28] Bgrmystr2 xD
[21:41:31] TorqueEmUp I was one of THOSE kids in high school
[21:41:32] TorqueEmUp I slept
[21:41:38] Bgrmystr2 That's just terrible tho Torque
[21:41:43] Bgrmystr2 the class would be easy
[21:41:43] TorqueEmUp teachers hated me for that
[21:41:58] Bgrmystr2 it'd be 90% arguments and 10% understanding
[21:42:02] Bgrmystr2 the class would be hell
[21:42:05] TorqueEmUp lol
[21:42:14] Bgrmystr2 but at the end of the day, everyone would be a better person because of it
[21:42:22] Bgrmystr2 well, at the end of many days
[21:42:24] TorqueEmUp I might pay attention
[21:42:26] Bgrmystr2 xD
[21:42:41] TorqueEmUp I only ever did anything in my extra curricular classes
[21:42:42] Bgrmystr2 there would be no subject other than talking to others haha
[21:44:25] TorqueEmUp If I wasn't interested, I didn't do it. lol
[21:45:08] Bgrmystr2 bad kid is bad xD
[21:45:15] TorqueEmUp Like my Info Tech class. Did fantastic in everything, except when he started having us doing programming, and I was like. "Fuck that"
[21:46:01] TorqueEmUp Yep, a bad kid
[21:46:26] TorqueEmUp well
[21:46:29] TorqueEmUp bad student
[21:46:31] TorqueEmUp :P
[21:47:09] TorqueEmUp I still showed up everyday
[21:47:29] TorqueEmUp I didn't get in trouble. (mostly)
[21:48:57] TorqueEmUp Only times I got in trouble when I was trying to occupy my time with things other than schoolwork.
[21:49:09] TorqueEmUp and I'd get smartmouthy
[21:53:02] Twokinds :ctwokinds-nibsbounce:
[21:53:44] Bgrmystr2 hey tom :u
[21:57:44] Ordithus :ctwokinds-KatDance:
[21:58:58] NightMeaty22 hello how ya'll doing this fine night
[21:59:13] TomFurson doing good how about yourself
[22:00:05] NightMeaty22 im fine just had some McDo's
[22:00:31] TomFurson Oo I could go for a burger.
[22:00:33] NightMeaty22 d's welcome to McDo
[22:01:23] WIPKING So...
[22:01:52] TomFurson So what?
[22:02:03] NightMeaty22 i some how made a meme by standing there and waching the words welcome to mcdonald's slide on the small screen
[22:02:29] WIPKING Ok?
[22:02:35] NightMeaty22 so d's welcome to McDo
[22:02:56] WIPKING Well alrighty than
[22:03:00] WIPKING Jose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula Jones
[22:03:08] NightMeaty22 i am insane
[22:03:19] NightMeaty22 ¿
[22:03:25] WIPKING Not like me doE
[22:03:31] WIPKING Jose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula JonesJose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula JonesJose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula JonesJose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula JonesJose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula JonesJose
[22:03:53] TomFurson Ok...
[22:04:05] WIPKING Its a vanoss thing
[22:04:11] NightMeaty22 so you had a taco
[22:04:18] WIPKING No...
[22:04:52] NightMeaty22 ok...
[22:04:53] WIPKING There's this guy on YouTube and one of his friends made up a name of a guy for a middle school play and the name was Jose Rico nacho taco quesadilla de la medula Jones
[22:05:29] WIPKING I know its random
[22:06:14] WIPKING But im most likely a lot younger than you night meaty
[22:15:15] WIPKING ...
[22:17:19] qwe304 :cqwe304-scienceparrot:
[22:19:42] WIPKING Tom you not crazy enogh to stream at 12 right
[22:20:39] WIPKING Or later in the morning or at 3 4 5 in the afternoon
[22:21:37] WIPKING Saying nothing counts as no
[22:21:38] WIPKING Thanks
[22:28:04] Glavous ?
[22:31:45] qwe304 :cqwe304-parrot:
[22:33:03] TorqueEmUp Tom is usually a night owl anyway right?
[22:33:19] TorqueEmUp Not like streaming this late would bother him any.
[22:33:56] qwe304 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[22:36:54] unsteddyphoenix :ctwokinds-KeithNeat:
[22:37:17] MarvTheHugPharaoh :ctwokinds-katdryer:
[22:37:44] unsteddyphoenix :ctwokinds-katdryer:
[22:40:51] MarvTheHugPharaoh "You know, it's nights like this when you're stood looking up at that starry sky with the half-moon and it feels right to be outside in the dark touching horses." Random man in a SovietWomble video
[22:41:32] TomFurson LOL I love his vids
[22:41:57] Bgrmystr2 :ptv-wondering:
[22:42:04] MarvTheHugPharaoh love them too
[22:42:38] unsteddyphoenix :ctwokinds-natsducky:
[22:44:14] MarvTheHugPharaoh It's shorter than the rest, but when you're happy, you raise it up like it's the best. What is it?
[22:45:47] unsteddyphoenix Your thumb?
[22:45:53] MarvTheHugPharaoh yes
[22:45:58] unsteddyphoenix Yessssss
[22:46:33] unsteddyphoenix :ctwokinds-KatDance:
[22:46:40] Bgrmystr2 is it though?
[22:46:52] Bgrmystr2 cuz my thumb is longer than my pinky :thinking:
[22:47:11] unsteddyphoenix Bgr confirmed actual gremlin
[22:47:20] MarvTheHugPharaoh lol
[22:47:34] Bgrmystr2 xD It's by like.. a few mm
[22:47:41] Bgrmystr2 maybe 3 or so
[22:47:45] Bgrmystr2 nothing significant
[22:47:56] MarvTheHugPharaoh a 3mm gremlin
[22:48:16] unsteddyphoenix "my hand is bigger than my foot. Only by a few mm though."
[22:48:29] Bgrmystr2 it's not even to that extent XD
[22:49:11] MarvTheHugPharaoh "My hand is bigger then my eye ball, I must be a squid 0_0"
[22:49:30] UnknownEnd ....
[22:49:45] unsteddyphoenix Arent most hands bigger than their eyeballs
[22:49:51] unsteddyphoenix !!!!!
[22:49:54] UnknownEnd Yes
[22:50:03] unsteddyphoenix Unless youre an anime character
[22:50:06] MarvTheHugPharaoh we're squid now
[22:50:22] UnknownEnd ......
[22:50:27] unsteddyphoenix :squid::squid::squid::squid:
[22:50:37] Ordithus Or a beholder
[22:50:50] unsteddyphoenix :ctwokinds-maevecute: <-or this
[22:50:57] UnknownEnd 🖋
[22:50:59] MarvTheHugPharaoh Kaidran Jesus
[22:51:10] Ordithus :ctwokinds-rainehappy: so cute!
[22:52:05] UnknownEnd 🤯
[22:52:29] Twokinds :ctwokinds-keith8D:
[22:52:44] unsteddyphoenix or that
[22:53:05] Ordithus Kill it with fire :ctwokinds-renirawr:
[22:53:12] UnknownEnd 🤭
[22:53:15] Dadrobit The thumb is the largest of the fingers tho...
[22:53:15] unsteddyphoenix no bully keef
[22:53:16] Bgrmystr2 or worship it
[22:53:23] Dadrobit Also, howdy
[22:53:31] MarvTheHugPharaoh Hi Daddy man
[22:53:35] unsteddyphoenix yo dad
[22:53:47] Ordithus Eyo robit
[22:54:03] Bgrmystr2 heya dadro
[22:54:04] WIPKING Heh im making a twokinds logo emblem in call of duty black ops three
[22:54:14] UnknownEnd 🤯
[22:54:30] Dadrobit 'Cuz the thumb begins w/ the first joint down at the wrist.
[22:54:52] unsteddyphoenix It said "shorter"
[22:55:12] Dadrobit Thumb is longer than the middle finger.
[22:55:24] Dadrobit You could say that it is the lowest though.
[22:55:36] Dadrobit But short implies length overall.
[22:56:59] unsteddyphoenix But actually your pinky finger begins at the shoulder
[22:57:05] unsteddyphoenix So that's the real longest
[22:57:27] Ordithus :ctwokinds-keifacepalm:
[22:57:32] WIPKING Omg
[22:57:39] Dadrobit I... I don't think that's how you biology...
[22:57:59] WIPKING You have a hand with a thumb index middle ring and Pinky fingers
[22:58:00] Dadrobit But what do I know, you're the one with the MENSA IQ.
[22:58:03] unsteddyphoenix trust me I am a science.
[22:58:11] unsteddyphoenix Lol
[22:58:16] WIPKING Ura science
[22:58:26] Ordithus If I start at the neck, my second toe is the longest digit
[22:58:43] unsteddyphoenix By jove he's right
[22:58:58] MarvTheHugPharaoh jokes on you nerd my pointer finger starts on the second floor
[23:01:01] unsteddyphoenix well thats just odd
[23:01:07] unsteddyphoenix should have that checked
[23:01:31] MarvTheHugPharaoh maybe
[23:02:57] Dadrobit Need to get my degree so maybe I can keep up with unsteddy science.
[23:03:33] unsteddyphoenix s'true
[23:03:42] MarvTheHugPharaoh Good luck, Unsteddy is equipped with a cyberdyne systems model 101
[23:03:46] unsteddyphoenix your IQ goes up by 30 when you get that piece of paper
[23:04:01] Dadrobit Daddy IQ 153 inbound.
[23:04:26] UnknownEnd (╯°Д°）╯︵ /(.□ . \)
[23:04:34] Dadrobit Plus I'll be makin' those fat college stacks.
[23:04:52] unsteddyphoenix :yen::euro::dollar::pound::moneybag::moneybag::moneybag:
[23:04:55] Bgrmystr2 does that mean phoenix has little maid robots? :thinking:
[23:04:57] unsteddyphoenix :ctwokinds-clovischuckle:
[23:05:02] Dadrobit Still not 200 though, so I guess I'll never understand Rick and Morty.
[23:05:22] unsteddyphoenix What a pipe dream
[23:05:25] unsteddyphoenix Dad
[23:05:32] unsteddyphoenix Maid Robots far more feasible
[23:05:43] MarvTheHugPharaoh dragon maid robot pls
[23:05:55] unsteddyphoenix :ctwokinds-NoraEyebrows:
[23:06:12] Bgrmystr2 full-size or mini-size?
[23:06:13] Bgrmystr2 or both?
[23:06:17] Bgrmystr2 fuck it, why not both
[23:06:45] MarvTheHugPharaoh has there been a dragon in a maid outfit suggestion yet? if not I'm taking it
[23:06:48] Dadrobit If I'm gonna fuck it, I'm gonna need full size. You could probably get a way with mini though, Bgr.
[23:07:04] Bgrmystr2 ow. I almost felt that one
[23:07:15] Dadrobit :ptv-dealwithit:
[23:07:52] Ordithus :ctwokinds-MikeLewd:
[23:08:03] MarvTheHugPharaoh :ctwokinds-reniembarrassed:
[23:08:04] Dadrobit We had trace and Keith in maid outfits
[23:08:28] Bgrmystr2 s'ok dadro. even the lil ones can be upgraded to a full-size model. :P
[23:09:13] MarvTheHugPharaoh I just want something that will clean me room, and here you guys are being all lewd
[23:10:32] Bgrmystr2 One mini-maid may for Marv pls, @unsteddyphoenix
[23:13:42] Dadrobit Found it. Only Keith is in the maid outfit, but Trace get's the Chippendale gig. https://www.patreon.com/posts/truth-or-madness-13565216
[23:14:11] Dadrobit A bunny Chippendale at that.
[23:14:22] MarvTheHugPharaoh Awww I forgot Nibbly maid outfit :ptv-excited:
[23:14:43] Bgrmystr2 that's awesome
[23:14:46] Bgrmystr2 I forgot about that
[23:16:23] Dadrobit Oh, and Nibbs of course.
[23:17:19] Dadrobit Has Kat ever gotten the Maid treatment?
[23:18:04] MarvTheHugPharaoh most likely
[23:18:17] Dadrobit She's gotten the Nurse outfit.
[23:18:21] Ordithus Artbook
[23:18:35] MarvTheHugPharaoh oh yeah, what page?
[23:18:37] Dadrobit I feel like I maybe saw it in the book or sometihng.
[23:18:44] Dadrobit Oh, well, there lol.
[23:18:53] Bgrmystr2 yeah artbook
[23:19:28] Ordithus 25
[23:20:25] Ordithus Natani gets the maid treatment on 73
[23:22:02] Dadrobit By the looks of it, it's Kat's outfit with how poorly (or really well?) it fits.
[23:23:05] Dadrobit brb
[23:24:32] unsteddyphoenix It fits perfectly
[23:25:07] MarvTheHugPharaoh thanks for the heads up
[23:26:32] unsteddyphoenix Maid nora would be...interesting
[23:26:44] Bigboi182 Wassuuuup!
[23:26:48] MarvTheHugPharaoh bust maid Reni
[23:27:05] unsteddyphoenix Instant win
[23:27:11] MarvTheHugPharaoh doing it
[23:27:21] unsteddyphoenix I vote for it no shame
[23:27:22] Twokinds Maid Neutral
[23:27:27] Bigboi182 No.
[23:27:30] MarvTheHugPharaoh XD
[23:27:32] unsteddyphoenix Wait yes
[23:27:34] unsteddyphoenix Im even more in
[23:27:38] MarvTheHugPharaoh sme
[23:27:40] MarvTheHugPharaoh same
[23:27:49] Bgrmystr2 I'm intrigued. Continue.
[23:27:56] Bigboi182 Wait, I've got a good one: Maid Clovis!
[23:28:03] Ordithus Maid Alabaster
[23:28:07] unsteddyphoenix To obvious
[23:28:08] unsteddyphoenix too*
[23:28:17] unsteddyphoenix Why havent we put neutral in embarrassing outfits yet
[23:28:24] unsteddyphoenix This seems like a gross oversight on our part
[23:28:25] MarvTheHugPharaoh Maid Brahn
[23:28:32] Bgrmystr2 because noone remembers neutral exists
[23:28:34] Bigboi182 How about Maid Euchre?
[23:29:34] unsteddyphoenix Role reversal where Rose ended up the enigmatic templar and Euchre ended up a butler for traces mansion
[23:29:39] Bigboi182 Or Maid Eric?
[23:29:54] Bigboi182 That could work too...
[23:30:02] MarvTheHugPharaoh Euchre as Alfred from batman?
[23:30:25] Ordithus I've got an image of a bird taking up residence behind Neutral's mask
[23:30:30] Ordithus in my head
[23:30:51] unsteddyphoenix Lol and she cant get rid of it
[23:30:57] Bigboi182 Tom, quick question: I know Mark is one of the biggest sailors around, but do you curse a bit yourself?
[23:31:03] unsteddyphoenix So begins the wacky misadventures of the demi-god and the canary
[23:31:32] MarvTheHugPharaoh Neutral as sailor moon?
[23:31:51] Bgrmystr2 Neutral Moon?
[23:32:00] MarvTheHugPharaoh Neutral Mars?
[23:32:02] Bgrmystr2 also +1 for the bird behind the mask
[23:32:11] Bgrmystr2 I'm sold
[23:32:41] Bigboi182 Agreed...
[23:32:43] TorqueEmUp :P and I just watched ProJared's new video on Sailor Moon games.
[23:32:50] Ordithus I'm going to use it
[23:33:01] Bigboi182 I forgot ProJared exists...
[23:33:02] unsteddyphoenix Neutral as this guy
[23:33:02] unsteddyphoenix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-bCIA_vyVc
[23:33:05] MarvTheHugPharaoh can we have a Neutral only sunday?
[23:33:45] Bigboi182 I wonder how that would go...
[23:33:49] Bgrmystr2 that is 100% neutral
[23:34:07] MarvTheHugPharaoh every one has no strong feeling on what won
[23:34:08] unsteddyphoenix im pretty down for themed sundays
[23:34:35] Bigboi182 Me too.
[23:34:51] Ordithus I have no feelings one way or the other
[23:34:56] MarvTheHugPharaoh Next sundays theme shall be cheese 80s movies
[23:35:06] MarvTheHugPharaoh cheesy
[23:35:14] Bigboi182 Terminator 2 Flora.
[23:35:26] unsteddyphoenix Shit I only know cheesy 90's movies
[23:35:30] unsteddyphoenix Does Kung Fury count?
[23:35:47] MarvTheHugPharaoh T2 came out in 91
[23:36:02] Bigboi182 I still want it.
[23:36:23] Bigboi182 Or just Terminator 1 Flora.
[23:36:33] Bigboi182 It's still badass.
[23:37:17] MarvTheHugPharaoh trying to think of a cheesy 80s movie suggestion, having trouble
[23:37:43] Bigboi182 Same here.
[23:38:12] Bigboi182 Flora as He-Man.
[23:38:13] MarvTheHugPharaoh going back to busty maid reni
[23:38:47] Bigboi182 OR keith doing that famous scene from They Live.
[23:39:08] MarvTheHugPharaoh Keith as Keith David from they live
[23:39:12] SpazztasticKiwi Don’t mind me - just lurkin
[23:39:32] qwe304 :cqwe304-11680:
[23:39:38] Bigboi182 This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
[23:39:46] Bigboi182 Hi Kiwi!
[23:39:53] MarvTheHugPharaoh Hi Kiwi
[23:39:54] Ordithus :ctwokinds-RainezZz:
[23:40:00] SpazztasticKiwi 🙌🏻
[23:40:23] unsteddyphoenix yo
[23:42:00] SpazztasticKiwi Stood in line for 6 hours to meet Jack
[23:42:06] SpazztasticKiwi #worthit
[23:42:11] MarvTheHugPharaoh Sweeeeeet
[23:42:17] Bigboi182 We were just talking about crossovers between TK and cheezy 80's movies.
[23:42:24] Bigboi182 That is nice.
[23:42:33] Bigboi182 You are SO lucky.
[23:42:55] Bigboi182 Anyway, care to join in the conversation?
[23:43:03] SpazztasticKiwi Why they started line up three hours early, I don’t get
[23:43:32] SpazztasticKiwi Dunno. Not sure if I can think of any 80’s movies right off
[23:44:17] Bigboi182 Don't worry, we can wait.
[23:44:26] Bigboi182 You can use google too.
[23:44:30] unsteddyphoenix Princess Bride style swordfight?
[23:45:07] SpazztasticKiwi Beetlejuice
[23:45:11] unsteddyphoenix Ofc they have to start the lines early. Organizing those things are messy
[23:45:58] SpazztasticKiwi He seemed surprised I had something for Malcolm
[23:46:41] Bigboi182 Good idea unsteddy!
[23:47:00] SpazztasticKiwi I loved the Princess Bride
[23:47:23] unsteddyphoenix I almost judged it based on the name
[23:47:25] unsteddyphoenix Pretty glad I didnt
[23:47:54] Dadrobit Back.
[23:48:02] Dadrobit With Ramen and wontons.
[23:48:15] SpazztasticKiwi The man that acted as Diego Montoya (dunno about spelling) was an actor in Criminal Minds for quite a few seasons
[23:48:44] SpazztasticKiwi Mandy Patinkin
[23:48:58] Bigboi182 Yep.
[23:49:09] Bigboi182 Princess bride was pretty good.
[23:49:24] unsteddyphoenix :ramen:
[23:49:37] Dadrobit Hold on, you don't know of any cheesy 80'smovies?
[23:49:49] SpazztasticKiwi Love Criminal Minds. Mandy’s part in both was great
[23:50:03] Dadrobit Flash Gordan? Escape from New York? Ghostbusters?
[23:50:12] Bigboi182 Of course.
[23:50:14] SpazztasticKiwi Never seen the original ghostbusters
[23:50:21] Bigboi182 WHAT?
[23:50:31] Dadrobit Back To The Future
[23:50:39] Bigboi182 You're really missing out.
[23:50:44] Dadrobit Ferris Beuler's Day Out
[23:51:01] Dadrobit The Labrynth
[23:51:04] SpazztasticKiwi Another thing my dad wasn’t fond of - paranormal stuff
[23:51:12] unsteddyphoenix You remind me of the B A B E \
[23:51:22] SpazztasticKiwi Though I’m not sure you’d call ghostbusters paranormal
[23:51:24] Bigboi182 It did fourth wall breaking before Deadpool made it cool.
[23:51:38] Bigboi182 It really isn't Kiwi.
[23:51:52] Dadrobit #RIPQualityMusicalNumbers
[23:52:02] Dadrobit Top Gun
[23:52:03] SpazztasticKiwi Logic rarely coexisted with him
[23:52:07] Bigboi182 As long as you don't watch the 2016 reboot first, you'll be fine.
[23:53:02] SpazztasticKiwi He liked Beetlejuice though
[23:53:05] Dadrobit The Neverending Story
[23:53:27] Dadrobit The Goonies.
[23:53:41] Dadrobit I'm running out....
[23:54:53] SpazztasticKiwi I’ve seen The Thing; think I have it in my movie collection
[23:55:15] Dadrobit Is that cheese?
[23:55:17] Bigboi182 Of all the things...
[23:55:22] Dadrobit Kinda?
[23:55:45] SpazztasticKiwi Indiana Jones has some good stuff
[23:55:50] unsteddyphoenix Wait Die Hard
[23:56:01] unsteddyphoenix Also known as the best christmas movie
[23:56:07] Dadrobit Ohhhhh, Indiana Jones is absolutely up there, how'd I miss that!
[23:56:15] MarvTheHugPharaoh yippee Ki yay
[23:56:21] SpazztasticKiwi And I’ve seen bits of Terminator over time
[23:56:35] SpazztasticKiwi Like Arnold pretty well
[23:56:42] Dadrobit Ayyyyy! Die Hard is amazing. The local theatre shows it for 5 bucks every Christmas Eve.
[23:56:56] MarvTheHugPharaoh thats awesome
[23:57:21] unsteddyphoenix You mean it isnt on TV every year?
[23:57:33] WIPKING Good nighy guys
[23:57:33] SpazztasticKiwi I’m pretty sure we watched the Dead Poets Society in school one time and I liked it pretty good
[23:57:46] MarvTheHugPharaoh the censored version
[23:57:56] Dadrobit o/ WIP
[23:58:12] Dadrobit I'm sure it's on TV, but going to the movies is fun.
[23:58:15] Bigboi182 Hi WIP
[23:58:26] SpazztasticKiwi Who Framed Roger Rabbit!
[23:58:45] Bigboi182 Damnit! How could I miss that?
[23:58:45] Dadrobit They have this thing called Tuesday Night Classics where every Tuesday they do old movies or five bucks.
[23:59:35] Dadrobit Got to see 2001: A Space Odyssey like that. Super amazing movie to see in a proper theatre.
[23:59:38] SpazztasticKiwi Might have Evil Dead too
[23:59:45] unsteddyphoenix Lol that movie was
[23:59:47] unsteddyphoenix Interesting
[23:59:50] Bigboi182 maybe...