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◄ Chat Log 11.04.2018 ►

[00:03:50] qwe304 https://imgur.com/a/tTmsd
[00:04:19] Bgrmystr2 haha it's sanae :v
[00:04:46] Vatruvius lol
[00:04:52] Bgrmystr2 yknow, I'm tempted to ask Karen's hair in yellow
[00:05:01] Bgrmystr2 but I already know who she'd look like.
[00:05:36] qwe304 want me to do it?
[00:05:49] Bgrmystr2 eh. Up to you. xD
[00:06:36] Vatruvius Anyone give Dreadnought a try?
[00:10:52] qwe304 https://imgur.com/a/KwYSm
[00:11:33] Bgrmystr2 :ptv-laugh: that looks so bad
[00:11:52] Bgrmystr2 Natani is Ash-colored
[00:12:16] Vatruvius Keith's ears should be the body colored but Natani looks alright...maybe that is because I have seen a Basitin Natani so...
[00:12:28] qwe304 yellow next
[00:12:31] Vatruvius Natani really does not look that bad...but Keith however.
[00:16:43] qwe304 yellow karen https://imgur.com/a/R7wTS
[00:17:33] Vatruvius Not bad.
[00:18:05] Vatruvius I am so close!
[00:18:09] Vatruvius :ptv-excited:
[00:18:18] NightMeaty22 she went super saiyan
[00:18:57] Bgrmystr2 ayyy, it's Su
[00:19:55] qwe304 any other i should do?
[00:20:12] Vatruvius Do all of them.
[00:20:46] qwe304 which first
[00:20:55] Vatruvius Rose and Natani
[00:21:03] qwe304 mhh...
[00:21:19] Vatruvius I said all...I really am just throwing ideas out there.
[00:21:27] Bgrmystr2 http://lovehina.wikia.com/wiki/Kaolla_Su#Anime Probably one of my favorite classic characters.. and the fact that Karen was based off her is great too :v
[00:22:10] Vatruvius Was Karen based off of her?
[00:22:16] Bgrmystr2 Yes
[00:22:20] Bgrmystr2 She was.
[00:23:06] Vatruvius Another other TK characters that were based off other characters?
[00:23:12] Bgrmystr2 dunno
[00:23:21] Bgrmystr2 I know that one cuz Tom said so in the stream chat one day
[00:23:48] Vatruvius But Karen certainly has evolved into her own character though.
[00:23:52] NightMeaty22 well i'm gunna go cya
[00:24:03] Vatruvius Goodnight!
[00:24:24] NightMeaty22 not that i was really here any way
[00:25:33] Dadrobit Qwe, looking at your question earlier about the online update, some things might be changed like the chapter title pages, but otherwise whenever books are changed the rest of the comic stays more or less the same. The books traditionally have some diffs.
[00:25:38] Dadrobit o/ Meaty
[00:25:58] Bgrmystr2 Karen was never going to be Su to begin with though, Vatru. She was always going to be her own character.
[00:26:07] Bgrmystr2 and was so from the beginning xD
[00:26:40] Dadrobit Of course, I'm not Tom, so really, heck if I know exactly how things are gonna turn out.
[00:26:47] Vatruvius I see...Karen was based off of some principles of Su.
[00:26:55] Bgrmystr2 yeah, she was
[00:27:09] Bgrmystr2 short hair genki girl, basically
[00:27:10] Vatruvius Like the careless/upbeat view of the world?
[00:27:30] Bgrmystr2 hmm, I dunno about that one
[00:27:48] Vatruvius Oh...
[00:28:35] Bgrmystr2 kinda like the scene where trace was fighting neutral and karen was watching in like.. a chair relaxing like it was a movie or w/e
[00:29:05] Vatruvius That was awesome...
[00:29:13] Bgrmystr2 or the time where trace was in bed w/ flora and she had fallen asleep
[00:29:14] Vatruvius I finally got my sister into the comic I think.
[00:29:18] Vatruvius Took long enough.
[00:29:32] Bgrmystr2 and she was like 'go trace!' when everyone else was mad or confused
[00:29:37] Bgrmystr2 yeah, shit like that
[00:29:38] Vatruvius lol
[00:30:38] Vatruvius I told my sister I would stop bugging her about the comic if she read up to Chapter 3...if she did not like it I would leave her alone. Just last Sunday I asked if she read it Chapter 2 yet and she said she read all the way through Chapter 4.
[00:30:42] Bgrmystr2 http://twokinds.keenspot.com/comic/69/ this page, specifically lol
[00:30:46] Vatruvius Mission accomplished.
[00:31:00] Vatruvius I like the page number.
[00:31:10] Bgrmystr2 yeh tom's got jokes lol
[00:31:20] Vatruvius I figured that was planned.
[00:31:44] Bgrmystr2 the page after that she jumped on keith's back
[00:31:46] Bgrmystr2 xD
[00:32:37] Vatruvius Oh...and Red was like...fight for fighting's sake or something and was attacking Tom
[00:34:09] Bgrmystr2 Ayyyy I found it :D http://twokinds.keenspot.com/comic/171/
[00:34:23] Bgrmystr2 chair, popcorn
[00:35:02] Vatruvius I like how she is saying "this took too long to set up; fight, fight, fight!"
[00:35:14] Bgrmystr2 haha
[00:35:14] Bgrmystr2 right?
[00:38:00] Vatruvius Hmm...that gave me a sketch idea.
[00:38:35] TheBeckoner Hullo people
[00:38:38] Vatruvius Karen inspired fighting...or Karen pouring fuel on a situation because she wants to watch it.
[00:38:42] Vatruvius Hey Beck.
[00:38:55] TheBeckoner How's it goin?
[00:38:59] Vatruvius Not bad.
[00:40:44] TheBeckoner That's good then. Just saw that the Alaric v Madelyn piece got sketched. good stuff. Alaric is best.
[00:40:45] Vatruvius Alright...I cannot take it anymore no matter how close I am.
[00:41:00] Vatruvius lol...in that sketch Maddie is best.
[00:41:08] TheBeckoner Close to what Vat?
[00:41:16] TheBeckoner Well sure in the fight
[00:41:17] TheBeckoner but
[00:41:20] TheBeckoner Alaric is best
[00:42:08] Vatruvius My youtube view history was all messed up and was giving all these horrible suggestions so I delete my history and went back and watch some of the best videos/playlists of my favorite youtubers in order of upload date.
[00:42:25] Vatruvius Literally 1400 videos. I added them all into one playlist.
[00:42:38] Vatruvius I am not on video 1192 or something.
[00:42:46] Vatruvius now*
[00:43:11] TheBeckoner hah wow
[00:43:17] TheBeckoner Is it working?
[00:43:53] Vatruvius Yup...best video suggestions ever. Also...by doing that I saw a lot of Mark's older videos which lead me here. :D
[00:44:04] Vatruvius Had I never done that I would never have discovered Twokinds.
[00:44:10] Vatruvius *gasp*
[00:45:30] TheBeckoner Yeah. I think I found Twokinds on Ifunny
[00:45:38] TheBeckoner years back
[00:45:45] Vatruvius Hmm...
[00:46:47] TheBeckoner Like when the app first came out I think, some dude was posting the comic pages. When subscribing happened on the app I got pretty hooked on the comic
[00:46:48] Vatruvius Probably one of the hardest things about recommending the comic for me is it is hard to avoid the conversations of "are you a furry?"
[00:47:01] TheBeckoner yeah
[00:47:10] Nillalee113 Oh but embrace the furry
[00:47:12] TheBeckoner really good content...just too much for some people
[00:47:41] Vatruvius Like...does it look like I enjoy the comic...OF COURSE I AM A FURRY! :ptv-angry:
[00:48:23] Vatruvius It is really weird when your younger sister asks you though...had to dodge that one. Luckily my parents are not internet people so they have no idea what a furry is.
[00:48:25] TheBeckoner Ha. I wouldnt really consider myself a furry...Idk what makes you one aside from self proclamation, but Im not doin that
[00:48:40] TheBeckoner lol
[00:48:51] TheBeckoner Imagine the explanation to them
[00:49:08] TheBeckoner "Basically werewolfs dad"
[00:49:15] Vatruvius God no!
[00:49:19] TheBeckoner lol
[00:49:27] TheBeckoner gottta make it easy for them
[00:49:40] Vatruvius They think in terms of bestiality...like one is attracted to wild animals.
[00:50:25] Vatruvius I am not sure about you...but Flora, Natani, Keith, etc. do not look like animals at all.
[00:52:19] Vatruvius :ptv-confused:...chat went quiet.
[00:52:58] Dadrobit That's what furries do, they kill the chat.
[00:53:20] Vatruvius Wha...:ptv-wondering:
[00:53:56] Dadrobit Also, I'm super glad MvA it got sketched as well. I missed the actual sketching of it, but it came out amazeballs.
[00:54:39] Vatruvius It is pretty good. I wanted Maddie to be running around dodging Alaric and booping him.
[00:54:47] Vatruvius But it is still awesome.
[00:54:59] TheBeckoner Im happy with anything Alaric. +1 from me Robit
[00:55:14] TheBeckoner Maddie is neat too
[00:55:15] Dadrobit \o/
[00:55:30] Vatruvius Frankenstein Alaric?
[00:55:49] Dadrobit Already did Thriller Zombie Alaric if that counts
[00:56:16] Vatruvius Nah...like Alaric brought back to life by mad scientist type stuff.
[00:56:55] Dadrobit Traditionally, bringing Alaric back from the dead has not been well received by the community lol!
[00:57:17] Vatruvius They want to keep him that way.
[00:57:33] Dadrobit I presume you know the incident I'm talking about?
[00:57:50] Vatruvius If it was more than 3-4 weeks ago then no.
[00:57:58] TheBeckoner I am also not aware
[00:58:01] TheBeckoner I dont think
[00:58:11] Vatruvius I came on when Tom drew the Alaric Jumps sketch.
[00:59:12] Dadrobit Tom did an April Fools day comic that spanned about a week where Alaric was brought back to life by sharing in the body of Lynn. Some of the members freaked the hell out and the backlash Tom got from it made him swear off of doing another April Fool's Day
[00:59:18] Dadrobit Comic ever again.
[00:59:48] Dadrobit Luckily, he eventually got over it and started making them again a few years later.
[01:00:10] Vatruvius I saw those colors...I thought they were awesome...not the best but really cool.
[01:00:34] Vatruvius There are a lot of things the majority of the community loves/hates that I do not get.
[01:00:38] Dadrobit Colors?
[01:01:15] TheBeckoner Ohhh yeah I remember that Robit.
[01:01:16] Vatruvius They were put under the colors category on patreon. Also...since they are just one page I call them colors.
[01:01:55] TheBeckoner At the time I had no clue about the streams so I thought it was part of the main story line lol freaked me out. I was ok with it tho
[01:02:27] Dadrobit Nonono, this was waaaay before Patreon.
[01:02:47] Vatruvius Ohh...that one April Fool's comic page where Raine tells the story about Rose having a red haired keidran...
[01:03:07] Dadrobit Hold on, I'll get it...
[01:03:08] Vatruvius Hmm...I saw them somewhere. Either on patreon or deviant.
[01:04:18] Dadrobit https://orig00.deviantart.net/ee94/f/2014/098/2/d/the_entire_april_fools_saga_2014_by_twokinds-d7dm2gb.jpg
[01:04:25] TheBeckoner I think the dude who used to post TK on ifunny posted it when I saw it
[01:07:25] Dadrobit Part of the issue was that he put out a paragraph at the top of the website trying to explain it as being legitimate for about a week while he uploaded the three pages individually.
[01:08:31] TheBeckoner Its all good to me up till alabaster. I never did see the paragraph
[01:08:34] Vatruvius No one took a grain of salt with it being near April Fools?
[01:09:46] TheBeckoner I dont think I saw it on april fools. I also dont think I ever saw the april fools portion of it.
[01:09:53] TheBeckoner er
[01:10:04] TheBeckoner the part that straight up says "april fools"
[01:12:11] SpazztasticKiwi Tom should be able to do whatever he pleases with the comic - it is entirely his after all in the end
[01:13:10] SpazztasticKiwi April Fools things are supposed to be rib-pokers - it’s what makes em fun
[01:14:00] Vatruvius I assume handling internet fame is difficult, I would not want my chat/messages/comments to be filled with hate and spend a large portion of my time banning people. Though the majority of people on the internet are ass hats.
[01:16:06] SpazztasticKiwi We’ve seen a bit of it that Tom gets from the copy/paste trolls
[01:16:40] SpazztasticKiwi Though that’s just a tiny bit of the surface of what he has to juggle, I’m sure
[01:17:14] Dadrobit Hmmm, taking too long to find the paragraph, but the gist of the argument against what he did centers around what he did when it was NOT April Fool's Day.
[01:17:32] Dadrobit He continued updating the "arc" for a week beyond it.
[01:18:11] Dadrobit And he wrote up explanations citing "hints" that he had planted long in the past like showing in the court room that Lynn had a grey eye like Alaric.
[01:18:19] Vatruvius What...they think a well laid out comic prank can be done in a single day? I feel like the pop in only when a stream notification pops up or a new page pops up...nothing more.
[01:18:41] Vatruvius they pop in*
[01:19:10] Dadrobit It's a trust thing. When someone pranks you on AFD and you get told it's just a prank right then and there, it's whatever, good fun.
[01:19:53] Dadrobit But when you continue telling people a week later that, "nope, it's for real, here's evidence that I've been planning this for a long time," you break that trust.
[01:19:54] Vatruvius From my time on the internet...there are a lot of assholes who want only what they want on the internet.
[01:20:25] Vatruvius I do not know...I still would have taken a grain of salt from it all.
[01:20:55] Dadrobit Most people took it in stride, but there were some very vocal people upset about it. I know he lost some readership from it.
[01:21:45] Vatruvius Dudging by that fact the comic established that Laura was just a projection and not her spirit...along with april fools nearby and a weird story that seems to be spending too much time on one moment.
[01:21:51] Dadrobit One of the going speculations is that he really was planning on bringing Alaric back and was using AFD as a cover if the backlash was too much, which it turned out to be.
[01:22:54] Vatruvius Backlash was big...but weather Tom was using it as a cover I guess we will never know. I honestly do not care...it is Tom's work and he can do what he wants with it. Hell...I love TV shows that kill my favorite characters so...
[01:22:58] Dadrobit You should try out the forums, trust me, the years spent on the boat have already been well bemoaned a million times over.
[01:23:28] Vatruvius The forums? Bemoaned?
[01:23:47] TheBeckoner sorrow I believe
[01:23:50] Dadrobit The forums: https://www.twokinds.net/forum/index.php
[01:24:13] Dadrobit Bemoaned: expressing discontent or sorrow over something
[01:24:27] TheBeckoner was pretty close
[01:24:55] SpazztasticKiwi Stories that kill your favorite/main characters, you say? Did you mean “basically anything written by John Green”?
[01:25:16] Vatruvius We are not going there Kiwi! Just...do not!
[01:25:37] Vatruvius mumbles "piece of shit Green."
[01:26:02] SpazztasticKiwi The Fault in Our Stars, man
[01:26:12] SpazztasticKiwi Nothing is sacred
[01:26:45] Vatruvius lost his mind thanks to Kiwi.
[01:27:09] SpazztasticKiwi You’re welcome
[01:27:37] Vatruvius for some reason does not feel better.
[01:28:27] SpazztasticKiwi Though if you want a story that doesn’t really kill anybody “important” (per se), but will still make your heart want to cry, I suggest the Poison Diaries
[01:29:31] SpazztasticKiwi by Maryrose Wood & Jane Northumberland
[01:30:19] Vatruvius Hmm...I think I will pass. Green took enough tears from this guy.
[01:37:00] SpazztasticKiwi Wonder how Tom’s been lately; he’s been quiet
[01:37:31] Vatruvius He hasn't been on all day.
[01:38:00] SpazztasticKiwi Don’t remember him being here yesterday either
[01:38:07] SpazztasticKiwi 🤔
[01:38:32] Vatruvius I actually do not remember...I feel like he must have at least been online.
[01:39:17] SpazztasticKiwi Yeah, but I’ve noticed that he can be seen as online, but not necessarily be present
[01:39:38] SpazztasticKiwi We’ll probably find out later though. I gotta go to bed
[01:39:55] Vatruvius Yeah...well goodnight Kiwi!
[01:40:15] Vatruvius I am going to get off to...just kick back and watch movies until my battery runs out or something.
[01:46:17] Dadrobit Damn, I legitimately cannot find that statement Tom made, it got deleted from his news updates, The wayback machine doesn't have it either.
[01:46:49] Dadrobit The best I can find is the last part of his statement that someone copy/pasted
[01:47:05] Dadrobit "The second fold of that two-foldedness I mentioned earlier unfortunately cannot be talked about right now. Saying anything specific would be a spoiler. However, what I can say is that Alaric's return is going to be an important factor in the overarching
[01:47:18] Dadrobit plot. He is a party member for a reason. But again, going into anything more could potentially ruin things, so that's all I'll say about that for now."
[01:47:55] Vatruvius Then it doesn't exist Dadro...it never did! You cannot prove my statement is false!
[01:47:59] Vatruvius Dangit!
[01:48:40] Dadrobit :/ I'm sure FoMo has a copy of it somewhere, but I don't think he's actually here right now.
[01:48:43] Vatruvius Hmm...that is a pretty convincing paragraph but still...in my time knowing Tom he trolls pretty good so...I do not mind really.
[01:49:17] Vatruvius I doubt many of the people doing the backlash to the comic could do it to Tom's face.
[01:50:43] Dadrobit They did and they do though.
[01:52:12] Vatruvius Wow...then they should read a book on life and ownership law...or whatever the technical term is. Take a chill pill.
[01:52:38] Vatruvius The fact that a large mass of people try to constrain an artist at all is just terrible.
[01:53:33] BadFoMo @Dadrobit I wanted to stay out, but... https://www.twokinds.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=843155#p843155
[01:53:48] Dadrobit Ayyyyy, thanks! :D
[01:54:19] Dadrobit Peeps just get invested in their stories is all, Vat.
[01:55:08] Dadrobit And webcomic's not like books where everything is written and committed. The author can screw around with their reader as the story goes on.
[01:55:27] Dadrobit But people aren't reading to get jerked around
[01:55:42] Dadrobit So when it happens, they're not cool with it.
[01:56:39] Vatruvius Looks like this really was a huge topic...like really serious. I find that sad because I read the comic for fun and I trust in Tom's decision in which direction he wants his comic to go.
[01:57:02] Bgrmystr2 In Tom's defense, there's nothing in the entire statement he wrote that would dis-prove it was a setup for april fools
[01:57:04] Vatruvius If he pulled my leg really hard like that near April Fools...hey, no problem. I really am not that upset.
[01:57:11] Bgrmystr2 he didn't say anything was canonical
[01:57:12] Dadrobit That's exactly the point, those people "trusted" Tom as well, and then their trust was broken.
[01:57:32] Bgrmystr2 so honestly, people got more out of the statement than he put into it, and jumped to conclusions
[01:57:39] Bgrmystr2 which were not entirely accurate
[01:57:45] Vatruvius I have learned to trust nothing Tom says.
[01:58:03] Dadrobit " plot. He is a party member for a reason. But again, going into anything more could potentially ruin things, so that's all I'll say about that for now." Is pretty indicative that his return is for good yo.
[01:58:04] Vatruvius And I have only been here a month.
[01:58:14] Dadrobit "Alaric's return is going to be an important factor in the overarching plot"
[01:58:23] Dadrobit Wrong copy/paste first time*
[01:58:36] Bgrmystr2 yeah the april fools plot lol
[01:58:44] Bgrmystr2 specifics are pretty important
[01:58:47] Vatruvius To me that is just a huge READ ME sign. "I am a joke" in blinking neon signs.
[01:58:49] Bgrmystr2 something he left out :P
[01:58:51] Dadrobit Let's not kid ourselves, he was absolutely trying to convince people Alaric was coming back.
[01:59:41] Bgrmystr2 I don't blame people for getting mad at it. But this is one of those moments where people look at something and jump to conclusions without all the information
[01:59:45] Bgrmystr2 and then get mad when they're wrong.
[01:59:47] Dadrobit I absolutely defend Tom being able to do AFD comics, but the extra paragraph was going too far.
[02:01:03] Vatruvius Maybe...maybe not. I thought it was neat and it is what it is.
[02:01:59] Vatruvius I feel like that comic was really pushing the "believe me" to much but hey...
[02:02:57] Vatruvius Anyway...I am getting off. Catch you guys later. :ptv-greetings:
[02:03:45] Dadrobit o/
[02:08:13] unsteddyphoenix Personally I was never upset. I thought it was pretty well done.
[02:08:30] unsteddyphoenix Just when I was starting to get convinced it wasnt a prank, pranked
[02:08:49] unsteddyphoenix But objectively yeah it was clearly a mistake that probably cant be argued
[02:09:48] Dadrobit Same, I quite enjoyed the saga, but I get that a lot of people aren't as able to disconnect themselves as well.
[02:10:35] Dadrobit I actually personally speculated that it was like an alpha test to see how the community would react to the "death" of Zen.
[02:10:58] Dadrobit Where he would use his connection to Natani to share that body instead.
[02:11:22] Dadrobit As at the time, his life was rather under threat.
[02:11:39] unsteddyphoenix Eh, that would make way more sense, though.
[02:12:11] unsteddyphoenix Doubt many arguements against Alaric -> lynn could be used for Zen -> Natani
[02:12:57] Dadrobit Yeah, of course, that was back before I realized Tom was never going to kill another character ever again lol.
[02:13:54] unsteddyphoenix April fools he is
[02:14:01] unsteddyphoenix This is just the long con to MAKE you think that
[02:14:24] Dadrobit Especially since Tom had just updated this gem to the character bio for the duo "it is unknown what will happen if one should die."
[02:14:28] unsteddyphoenix Maybe that was the purpose of it. To make the viewers unsure about everything
[02:15:05] unsteddyphoenix Oh so he did
[02:15:33] unsteddyphoenix That makes you think it WONT happen? Looks like a chekovs gun
[02:16:13] Dadrobit "This link, while a huge advantage in the field, is not without its disadvantages. They can never be separated, and it is unknown what will happen if one should die." The full updated part
[02:16:46] unsteddyphoenix The last line seems completely unnecessary unless he was planning on killing one
[02:16:47] Dadrobit Because Raine has already healed his leg.
[02:16:53] unsteddyphoenix Not that I expect him to but
[02:17:10] unsteddyphoenix Raine OP OP
[02:17:25] Bgrmystr2 Honestly, I'm fairly sure it's pretty easy. If Natani dies, it'll affect Zen, but he's still prettymuch his entire self. He's not missing half of his mind. Natani dying would likely only just leave Zen by himself.
[02:17:29] Dadrobit That was the basis for my argument. It was updated right as the April Fool's Day Comic was happening.
[02:18:02] Bgrmystr2 Zen dying, on the other hand, would leave Natani with half a mind left.. which is not exactly ideal.
[02:18:33] Bgrmystr2 That, or leave Natani with half of Zen's mind.
[02:18:42] Bgrmystr2 Which would be really strange
[02:18:44] Dadrobit I fully expect that when the bandages come off, Zen's leg will be more or less totally fine.
[02:19:08] unsteddyphoenix Im hoping for the cane. Still a consequence, just more PG
[02:19:35] Dadrobit I think it's going to be the lead-in for Raine to start understanding what kind of power she really has.
[02:19:40] unsteddyphoenix The dang thing MELTING for chrissakes
[02:20:14] unsteddyphoenix Raines an odd situation.
[02:20:22] unsteddyphoenix She's like another protagonist
[02:20:22] Dadrobit I still hold that Nibbs was actually dead and it was Raine who brought her back
[02:20:59] unsteddyphoenix Honestly I feel like being thrown at a three wouldnt actually kill a squirrel in the first place? :thinking:
[02:21:14] Dadrobit Twokinds is like an anime. The main protagonist is always the 4th most interesting character.
[02:21:31] Dadrobit Fastball pitching it? You betcha.
[02:22:47] Bgrmystr2 not instantly, I don't think
[02:23:00] unsteddyphoenix I remain unconvinced. Needs IRL testing.
[02:23:17] Bgrmystr2 I'm actually tempted to think Nibbly may be injured internally and noone knows
[02:23:18] unsteddyphoenix You make a bland MC so the viewer can put themselves in their shoes.
[02:23:23] unsteddyphoenix Movies do that too.
[02:23:39] unsteddyphoenix Like the Matrix
[02:24:10] unsteddyphoenix Or POTC, which went downhill after they made Jack Sparrow the MC
[02:24:46] Dadrobit :/ My brother throwing squirrel sized rats on the ground works pretty well.
[02:24:48] unsteddyphoenix Anime is more "everyman Jim and his harem" though.
[02:25:06] unsteddyphoenix Gross.
[02:25:22] Dadrobit Yeah, was glad to move away from that.
[02:25:38] unsteddyphoenix But nah I need some wind resistance, analysis of his throwing stance, average squirrel weight
[02:26:00] Bgrmystr2 distance to tree too
[02:26:02] Bgrmystr2 :v
[02:26:06] unsteddyphoenix Ye
[02:26:43] unsteddyphoenix When I was a POS shit, I dropped my grandfathers hella old cat off a 2 story balcony
[02:26:49] unsteddyphoenix *POS kid
[02:26:57] unsteddyphoenix It literally hit the ground running
[02:27:13] Bgrmystr2 You know.. angle and medical analysis of impact would probably really help too. :P
[02:27:20] Bgrmystr2 but yeah animals are surprisingly resiliant
[02:27:26] Bgrmystr2 prolly spelled that wrong
[02:27:52] Bgrmystr2 resilient* I did.
[02:28:31] Dadrobit The tree was right next to him, and I think I found that the TV of a falling squirrel is way less than 25 mph, but a pitch of even an amateur can reach 50 mph. Nibs was a goner.
[02:29:25] Dadrobit Ignoring drag and TV, an object falling 20 feet is going 24.5mph when it hits the ground.
[02:29:42] Dadrobit A squirrel to survive is doing much less.
[02:29:45] Bgrmystr2 :thinking: You keep saying TV and all I can think of is Television.
[02:29:52] Dadrobit A pitcher is doubling that speed.
[02:30:00] Dadrobit Terminal Velocity
[02:30:03] Bgrmystr2 and then I'm imagining Dadro dropping a TV on a squirrel lol
[02:30:08] Bgrmystr2 and I'm just.. why would you do that
[02:30:19] unsteddyphoenix "pitch" is a strong word, really more of a "fling"
[02:30:37] Dadrobit http://cdn.twokinds.keenspot.com/comics/20171004.jpg
[02:30:47] Dadrobit That's a mighty fast fling you got going on there
[02:30:56] unsteddyphoenix Ooo if he was left handed or right handed
[02:31:09] unsteddyphoenix Motion blur for drama~
[02:31:34] unsteddyphoenix I guess maybe if Carver has anime strength, but that seems like a basitin thing
[02:32:45] Bgrmystr2 I'm still of the opinion that he probably didn't throw nibbly hard enough to kill her on impact, but internal injuries are going to be obvious.
[02:32:52] Dadrobit He gestures and holds his magic rod left handed
[02:33:34] Bgrmystr2 I sometimes do stuff with my left hand even though I'm right-handed
[02:33:43] Bgrmystr2 hell, some things I prefer doing with my left hand
[02:33:48] unsteddyphoenix Nah that's probably enough to assume he's left handed
[02:34:26] Dadrobit Don't think it's anime strength to hit 50mph. Kids do that.
[02:34:53] unsteddyphoenix Maybe he did like a wind-up offscreen
[02:35:28] unsteddyphoenix *heyyy batter batter~"
[02:35:41] Bgrmystr2 haha
[02:35:46] Dadrobit (F=ma) Force is multiplicative, and she is potentially hitting that tree at twice the speed she'd hit the ground falling in a complete vacuum.
[02:35:53] Dadrobit Ded
[02:36:13] Dadrobit But Raine had the proverbial curve ball in bringing her back!
[02:37:54] Bgrmystr2 I'm not convinced. Their world has magic and other things that do not align with our world. Their gravity could be different. The amount of force to injure could also be different
[02:38:08] unsteddyphoenix Hmm...squirrel wieght varies, but i'd put it at 500g?
[02:39:12] Dadrobit I'm convinced that it would make a better story for Raine to come to the realization of her powers through accomplishing a feat that not even Trace could do without going mad.
[02:40:15] Bgrmystr2 Perhaps nibbly wouldn't survive the throw here, on Earth, but on Mekkan there's not enough information about Mekkan. Also, Raine did say specifically in the comic there wasn't anything she could do, as she spent all her magic sending carver away.
[02:40:30] Bgrmystr2 I'm sure if any of it went towards Nibbly, she probably would have known.
[02:40:48] unsteddyphoenix wow how does the internet not have any info about throwing squirrels at trees
[02:40:50] unsteddyphoenix Letting me down here
[02:41:18] unsteddyphoenix Im more in the "somethings up with nibbly" camp. Her hdiing from Reni 'cause she doesnt want her mind read is too interesting of an idea.
[02:41:36] Bgrmystr2 xD Yes I'm sure if you search google, It'll tell you all the math and medical science behind throwing squirrels at trees in twokinds.
[02:41:43] unsteddyphoenix if Raine healed her I feel like Tom'd make it obvious with some glowy effects
[02:41:50] unsteddyphoenix Youd think so, but youd be wrong! :O
[02:42:04] Bgrmystr2 I know I'd be wrong :D
[02:42:43] Bgrmystr2 I, too, feel that if Raine had healed Nibbly, even unconsciously, there'd be glowy effects or something
[02:43:35] Dadrobit Her eyes continue to glow slightly until after Zen is wrapped up. I think she was just radiating it without knowing.
[02:45:09] unsteddyphoenix Brb fud
[02:45:53] Bgrmystr2 Yeah, that tends to happen after anyone uses magic, Dadro. It's likely an aftereffect of using magic in general. It doesn't necessarily mean that magic is still being used.
[02:46:05] Bgrmystr2 Things glow.
[02:46:25] Bgrmystr2 They still glow even after magic stops, they just seem to slowly dim and the glow disappears.
[02:46:42] Bgrmystr2 I don't know why Raine is different.
[02:46:50] Bgrmystr2 I don't think she is.
[03:41:50] unsteddyphoenix Maybe she can silent cast, add that to her evergrowing list of powers
[03:44:15] Bgrmystr2 :thinking:
[03:51:16] unsteddyphoenix Having innate powers you dont understand is basically what a sorceror from Dnd is
[03:51:26] unsteddyphoenix And Sorcerors can silent cast
[03:51:29] unsteddyphoenix And Tom PLAYS DND
[03:51:42] unsteddyphoenix Im on to something here
[11:06:02] Vatruvius Hmm...were you guys addressing the fact that Nibbly should have died hitting that tree? If so...gravity did not have much to do with it as she was flung into the tree at a far faster speed than gravity could have influenced. In either case...
[11:06:12] Vatruvius Nibbly is hiding something.
[11:07:03] Vatruvius Also...good morning everyone! :ptv-greetings:
[12:33:27] Dadrobit Finally watched last Sunday's stream.
[12:34:15] Dadrobit Man, it's difficult. I kept thinking about responding to people in chat only to remember...
[12:42:22] Vatruvius Last Sunday? What were we talking about? Or was it just normal chat?
[12:53:01] Dadrobit Just watched the segment that I missed.
[12:53:13] Dadrobit Which just happened to be when Tom picked my suggestion
[12:53:27] Dadrobit But some stuff came up like people asking about lore stuffs.
[12:53:45] Dadrobit And Tom forgot to put ears and a tail on Maddie and Alaric respectively
[12:54:22] Dadrobit Ad of corse other random comments/discussions I had the urge to respond to.
[12:54:29] Vatruvius lol...no one noticed except for one.
[12:54:42] Vatruvius Of course.
[12:55:53] Vatruvius And I just finished making orange/cranberry scones...yum.
[12:56:22] Vatruvius Wow...I think this is the lowest number of people on this chat I have ever seen...only 6 people.
[13:02:35] Dadrobit About to be one less. Heading in to class in a few minutes.
[13:02:46] Vatruvius Well good luck.
[13:02:55] Vatruvius Have fun....and other stuff.
[15:04:02] JaydenMozingo I noticed the weekly stream schedule was changed. It no longer says page stream on wednesday. has the day for page srteams changed or is it just for simplicity?
[15:08:12] Vatruvius Tom no longer has a dedicated page stream day.
[15:08:53] Vatruvius He will either do the page stream on the Friday "Art" stream or if there is other stuff that need to be done then like Nora Cards then he will do the page stream some time in the week. It is up to him when that is.
[15:27:04] Bgrmystr2 Vatru, the reason I said gravity was not because the throw itself would be affected, but because nibbly's body would be different.
[15:27:47] Bgrmystr2 if their gravity is higher than ours, their bodies would need to have stronger muscles, and be able to withstand that kind of gravity level
[15:28:26] Bgrmystr2 and that increased strength could easily help a squirrel like nibbly survive an impact with a tree that she wouldn't survive here
[15:28:45] Bgrmystr2 that kind of thing matters.
[15:32:32] JaydenMozingo Oh, I get that. I guess it would be easier to have the page stream on any day rather than to stress on when to do it.
[15:32:59] JaydenMozingo Well thanks you guys!
[15:35:17] Bgrmystr2 yeah it's been that way for a while now Jay
[15:35:28] Bgrmystr2 surprising that it took you this long to notice
[15:39:24] Bgrmystr2 also, I didn't leave the chat room last night, picarto disconnected me, giving me the reconnecting error loop the whole time, ever since you woke up vatru
[15:40:15] Bgrmystr2 so it's likely that other people in the chat also got the disconnection, and that's why the user count is lower.
[16:25:39] Vatruvius I see...muscle density does mattet mot to mention the chemical make up of the bj ones of organisms on higher gravity worlds.
[16:26:14] Vatruvius I see about the disconnects...itbhas just been the lowest I have seen so far.
[16:26:31] Vatruvius Happy to help Jayden.
[16:26:56] Vatruvius Alright...heading to class. Catch you guys in a few hours.
[17:01:52] JaydenMozingo Oh haha Bg. I have not been in picarto or checked twokinds for a while due to an internet shortage
[17:03:10] JaydenMozingo I only just got back to see Carver's fate and Nibbly's adventure through Maren's shirt as well as noticing the change in schedule
[17:12:55] Bgrmystr2 poor maren.. xD
[18:43:48] Vatruvius Ugh...
[22:27:58] NightMeaty22 hello?
[22:28:58] Bgrmystr2 Noone's home. Try across the street.
[22:29:05] NightMeaty22 ok
[22:29:35] NightMeaty22 walks across the street
[22:57:53] Dadrobit Man, I love the forums, peeps be talking about what could happen to the comic if something happens and Tom doesn't want to, or can't finish the comic.
[22:58:58] Dadrobit The option of him passing it off to someone else is brought up but "I hope it isn't Dadrobit" is the first person to be nixxed as a possible option.
[22:59:17] Dadrobit Followed by Amenon, and MrEase.
[22:59:36] Dadrobit Feeling the love! :D
[23:00:01] Vatruvius What? :ptv-confused: