
◄ Chat Log 24.04.2018 ►
[08:28:00]
NightMeaty22
Good morning
[10:47:30]
Barabashe4ka
Hello
[14:40:09]
Vatruvius
Hello people! :ptv-greetings:
[14:41:17]
SilliconCarbide
hello vat!
[14:42:51]
Bgrmystr2
:ptv-sleepy:
[14:42:54]
SpazztasticKiwi
My phone’s back up
[14:55:15]
Vatruvius
What happened to it?
[14:59:30]
SpazztasticKiwi
After losing our bill payment record (again), the company shut them off without warning
[15:04:42]
Vatruvius
Tge company lost the bill payment or you did?
[15:04:48]
Vatruvius
the*
[15:05:54]
SpazztasticKiwi
They supposedly either lost the confirmation of payment or somehow never got it
[15:06:01]
SpazztasticKiwi
We don’t get it either
[15:07:52]
Vatruvius
Well...welcome back!
[15:10:55]
SpazztasticKiwi
Watched some movies since I couldn’t do much else
[15:11:53]
SpazztasticKiwi
The Greatest Showman’s good
[15:18:23]
Vatruvius
I wanted to see that. Maybe I will rent it on Amazon or something sometime.
[15:19:18]
Vatruvius
Going on an ice cream run! Woo hoo!
[15:20:24]
Vatruvius
The best kind of run.
[18:13:13]
TomFurson
anyone here?
[18:16:33]
Vatruvius
Yup, it is rather lonely right now.
[18:19:18]
TomFurson
Just made a new drawing what to check it out?
[18:19:47]
Vatruvius
Sure, got nothing better to do. Just watching videos.
[18:19:55]
TomFurson
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/27125887/
[18:22:32]
Vatruvius
Neat, your original character?
[18:22:46]
TomFurson
yup
[18:26:10]
Vatruvius
Nice.
[18:27:46]
TomFurson
Just made that in a few hours. It use to take me 4 hour. that took me about 2
[18:29:45]
Vatruvius
Practice makes perfect. I may get into drawing more when I need it like for my D&D stuff but tgat has been left on the back burner for tge last few years since I lost my group.
[18:30:07]
Vatruvius
that* the*
[18:33:34]
TomFurson
That happens
[19:13:09]
NightMeaty22
lurks
[19:56:05]
Vatruvius
Looking forward to my new computer. Yet another gaming laptop however they are the most affordable for what I am looking for. Now all I need is to save up some money, time to find a part time job for the summer.
[21:27:00]
NightMeaty22
I need a job
[21:27:33]
NightMeaty22
But...my dad will make me work for him
[21:27:53]
NightMeaty22
So he can under pay me
[21:36:39]
Bgrmystr2
get a job elsewhere
[21:36:42]
Bgrmystr2
don't work for him
[21:36:44]
Bgrmystr2
it's your choice, not his
[21:54:38]
Vatruvius
Anyone here familiar with pricy gaming headphones?
[21:56:02]
Bgrmystr2
I tend to avoid headphones, myself, but you can always check out Turtle Beach. They're pretty decent. Have an EarForce X1 for the xbox 360 I got wayy back like.. oh jeez.. 12 years ago? maybe 13? still works
[21:56:25]
Bgrmystr2
I only use the mic, but the earphones still work, I check em every so often
[21:59:04]
Vatruvius
I had Turtle Beach headphones for my xbox 360, best thing ever. I am curious about this Acer Galea 500 as I am looking at their Triton 700 laptop...I like to keep thing in brand but not if they outright rob me. Tge Galea 500 is $300 so, I have no idea if
[21:59:25]
Vatruvius
they are so good to warrant this cost.
[21:59:31]
Vatruvius
The*
[22:00:08]
Bgrmystr2
I think most headphones are not worth the cost, but then again, I have zero reason to use headphones myself. I don't need to keep the sounds of what I'm doing all to myself.
[22:00:27]
Bgrmystr2
so I may not be the best of persons for this
[22:01:01]
Vatruvius
It is hard to decide as i cannot find any reliable reviews for them.
[22:01:11]
Bgrmystr2
it does help if you actually have a need for headphones or not. If you're in a noisy environment, or you'd be a bother to multiple other people.. then headphones may be a good idea
[22:01:21]
Bgrmystr2
but I dunno anything about Triton
[22:01:27]
Bgrmystr2
I kinda avoid everything Acer
[22:01:31]
Bgrmystr2
never had anything quality from them
[22:01:37]
Vatruvius
This is for gaming.
[22:02:03]
Bgrmystr2
tis what I'd be using em for too
[22:02:09]
Bgrmystr2
gaming, watching shows, etc
[22:02:52]
Vatruvius
I have done hours of research and the Triton is the best for what I am looking for. I went to many other brands too, best one so this is a sure future puchase.
[22:03:59]
Vatruvius
ASUS, Razer, MSI, Gigabyte, to name some.
[22:04:58]
Bgrmystr2
I dunno if any of them have decent headphones, but I'd still take ASUS and MSI since they have decent hardware capability
[22:05:16]
Bgrmystr2
gigabyte tends to be average, though not bad, it's not like.. high quality
[22:05:30]
Dadrobit
If communication isn't a pressing issue for you, skip anything that's labled that it's "made for gaming". Senheiser 200 PRO or 280 PRO are fantastic sounding headsets and are incredibly comfy to wear for long periods.
[22:06:09]
Dadrobit
While still being very affordable
[22:06:15]
Bgrmystr2
yeah was gonna say, 'made for gaming' is kinda somethin I see from razer, and their prices seem kind of a lot for what they sell
[22:06:46]
Bgrmystr2
btw dadro, saw that movie you were talkin about the other day last night. Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
[22:06:49]
Bgrmystr2
was pretty good
[22:07:01]
Bgrmystr2
figured I'd give it a go
[22:07:07]
Dadrobit
Glad to hear you enjoyed it :)
[22:09:14]
Vatruvius
I don't fall gor the "made for gaming" tag however that is Razer's motto. The headset would be for 7.1 surround and a good mic. I have owned several Tazer products and like them. I just do not know why the Galea 500 is $300 when I own the Razer Kraken 7.1
[22:09:24]
Vatruvius
V2 for $120.
[22:09:26]
Dadrobit
Classmate has a set of the 280 PRO and I'm lowkey a little jealous of how unreasonably comfortale they are.
[22:09:52]
Vatruvius
Razer*
[22:10:40]
Bgrmystr2
I figure dadro would be a way better person to be talkin to about headphones than myself, being in the music industry and all
[22:11:07]
Bgrmystr2
also, thanks for the movie recommendation :thumbsup:
[22:11:08]
Dadrobit
The 'made for gaming' bit wasn't supposed to be super literal lol, just meant it for any gaming centric headset company.
[22:11:16]
Dadrobit
My pleasure bgr.
[22:11:44]
Bgrmystr2
ended up watching it after watching Edge of Tomorrow
[22:11:57]
Bgrmystr2
was also pretty good
[22:13:03]
Vatruvius
I just want to make sure I am not paying a $100 brand name upcharge for them. Hopefully when I get my computer back I can do some better research and find a decent review.
[22:29:37]
Dadrobit
Looking into them, tbh, I'm super skeptical about anything that doesn't offer true 5.1 or 7.1. All virtual 5.1 or 7.1 means is that there is post processing done to the already processed audio coming into your stereo headsets that is just essentially
[22:30:35]
Dadrobit
just extra reverb with certain frequency filtering applied to it to give an illusion of surround sound.
[22:31:17]
Dadrobit
But that to me seems suer sketchy as it's done ~AFTER~ the audio has already been processed optimally for the media.
[22:32:32]
Dadrobit
And the .1 means that without a dedicated sub driver, it's just boosint the low frequency output of the stereo pair which is going to further induce harmonic distortion.
[22:32:38]
Dadrobit
boosting*
[22:33:24]
Vatruvius
I see, so key word to look for is "true 7.1 surround."
[22:33:53]
Dadrobit
That means that the speaker's ability to cleanly output mid and high range frequencies will be impaired while bass heavy stuff is going on and a loss of overall quality will happen.
[22:34:54]
Bgrmystr2
Unless headphones actually have that many speakers in there, I would never trust anything that says it has more than Left and Right
[22:34:56]
Vatruvius
The only decent reviews I could find were on Amazon and apperentally the headphones are non-adjustable. Kinda of a break it feature for me. Like seriously, no adjustablitiy for $300?!
[22:35:23]
Dadrobit
To be honest, there's barely anything out there gaming wise that's even mixed for 5.1 to my knowledge. Going beyond that, I don't trust that a manufacturer can even place that many drivers in a headset with any real QA.
[22:36:34]
Vatruvius
I know the Kraken 7.1s I have tought "true 7.1" and it certainly sounds like they do. I am curious if some of the more expensive headsets do it better though.
[22:37:51]
Dadrobit
Nope, Kraken 7.1 is not true 7.1.
[22:37:54]
Dadrobit
Advanced 7.1 virtual surround sound engine The Razer Kraken 7.1 comes equipped with an advanced 7.1 virtual surround sound engine that immerses you deeper into the game. The engine is capable of ultra-low latency audio processing and modulates the audio
[22:38:09]
Dadrobit
source to simulate a 360⁰ surround sound experience that is usually achievable only by incorporating more than one positional driver in each ear cup.
[22:38:56]
Vatruvius
So what is an example of a true 7.1 headset?
[22:39:00]
Dadrobit
It's just stereo with extra processing.
[22:39:28]
Dadrobit
Dunno, but anything that says "virtual surround" is not.
[22:40:07]
Dadrobit
It's gonna probably be expensive as shit though.
[22:44:52]
Vatruvius
The Razer Tiamat is more pricer and claims 7.1 as well, says it has 10 drivers, 5 in each ear.
[22:45:07]
Dadrobit
STRIX 7.1 seems to be the real deal. $200. https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-STRIX-7-1-Gaming-Headset/dp/B00VMY069S
[22:45:08]
Vatruvius
Is that a good example of close to true 7.1?
[22:46:05]
Dadrobit
Though I can't vouch for actual quality.
[22:49:05]
Dadrobit
You're also banking on the media being mixed in 7.1. Otherwise it's just gonna get mixed down to stereo is potentially gonna get represented kind of awkwardly through 10 drivers of different sizes.
[22:49:19]
Dadrobit
stereo and is*
[22:51:10]
Vatruvius
I certainly feel like games represent their audio space in true 3D, or at least the one that have tge 7.1 option in the audio settings.
[22:52:00]
Vatruvius
A lot of tgem have the typical settings which is stereo, tv, or headset. Not sure if headset implies 7.1 or just 3D sound.
[22:52:06]
Vatruvius
them*
[22:53:32]
Vatruvius
And to be clear, if a headset has just 1 driver per ear cup is is virtual surround no matter how they advertise it?
[22:53:41]
Vatruvius
it*
[22:57:13]
Bgrmystr2
if a headset has 1 drievr per ear cup, that's straight stereo. A Left and Right. That's it. Everything that sounds like it's more is all virtual surround.
[22:57:23]
Bgrmystr2
driver* even
[22:57:37]
Bgrmystr2
there's plenty that stereo can do to make it sound like surround
[22:58:10]
Bgrmystr2
there's a lot of videos on youtube where, even with stereo, it sounds like stuff coming from behind you, or in front of you, or on the side.. and it's all stereo, not surround
[22:58:20]
Bgrmystr2
it's entirely based on fooling your brain
[22:58:26]
Bgrmystr2
there's a science to it
[22:58:32]
Bgrmystr2
but it's still stereo.
[23:00:27]
Dadrobit
Looking around, it's really just the two aforementioned headsets for true 7.1. A common sentiment is that if you want to get quality out of the headsets, you're also going to want to buy an dedicated sound card for your computer as the onboard processors
[23:00:52]
Dadrobit
generally aren't made to handle 10 channels of audio all at once.
[23:01:24]
Dadrobit
Also, bgr is correct. If it only has two drivers, then it is stereo. Period.
[23:02:46]
Bgrmystr2
I need to upgrade the center for my computer.. it's still stereo even if I have 2 tweeters, 3 woofers, and 3 subs..
[23:02:52]
Bgrmystr2
dunno how I'd sort it though
[23:03:07]
Dadrobit
The way they simulate surround is by throwing a reverb on top of the regular audio. This reverb has frequencies in its reflections filtered out to simulate what a natural reflection would sound like coming through your skull.
[23:03:40]
Vatruvius
I missed so much...one sec...gotta read.
[23:03:48]
Dadrobit
It is then all compressed after that to make everything a bit louder so that you hear those reflections more in the mix.
[23:04:02]
Dadrobit
It's just an illusion.
[23:05:09]
Vatruvius
Came across a forum that really cleared it up.
[23:07:05]
Vatruvius
Basically, a true 7.1 headset is amazing if you get a sound card as well...no comparison. However, no soundcard is not much of an improvement to a virtual surround. Since I will not be getting a desktop/soundcard is a long time and plan to buy a laptop,
[23:07:47]
Vatruvius
which to my knowledge laptops do not have amazing soundcards, I should look for a good virtual surround headset.
[23:08:05]
Bgrmystr2
any reason why you actually need virtual surround?
[23:08:21]
Dadrobit
It only hurts the representation.
[23:09:11]
Dadrobit
The virtual surround happens after the audio is already put out in stereo, it doesn't actually take what's happening in the mix into account.
[23:09:22]
Vatruvius
On top of that, the Galea 500 is $300 where tge two true 7.1 surround headphones are $200. That is just flat out robbing.
[23:10:33]
Vatruvius
I doneed virtual surround for my games, any bit of surround is important even if virtual. I do now that tge virtual surround works from flat out stereo and I cannot go back.
[23:11:06]
Vatruvius
know* the*
[23:11:30]
Bgrmystr2
the problem is that what you're hearing from the virtual surround is not going to actually take into account where the audio is actually happening
[23:11:31]
Dadrobit
But it's not actually taking into account the placement of actors in the soundstage. It's just adding extra noise.
[23:12:29]
Bgrmystr2
if you're playing a shooter for instance, and something happens behind you, the speakers won't actually know to play it from that perspective because the game isn't doing it with the audio to begin with
[23:12:41]
Bgrmystr2
it has to be something planned from the beginning
[23:13:44]
Vatruvius
Meaning the games have to have surround support for my virtual surround headset to place sounds semi-realistically?
[23:14:12]
Dadrobit
Nope, still won't help.
[23:14:29]
Bgrmystr2
the game has to actually have virtual surround built into the audio itself
[23:14:47]
Bgrmystr2
when you see videos like this on youtube, with virtual audio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA
[23:14:57]
Bgrmystr2
it's made with that surround from the beginning
[23:15:17]
Bgrmystr2
it already had the intention of making it into the illusion of being there
[23:15:19]
Dadrobit
Virtual surround is literally just the same stereo audio, played again as extra reverberations.
[23:15:42]
Dadrobit
With some frequencies taken out.
[23:16:13]
Bgrmystr2
yeh, and even so, you're not going to find a game with virtual audio built into a stereo mix
[23:16:14]
Vatruvius
This is confusing because I know my current virtual surround headset does make at least some of my games have realistic sound placement. Or is tyat tge point of the trickery? Does my brain adjusts how it listens with these headphones to what I experience
[23:16:21]
Vatruvius
ingame?
[23:17:11]
Bgrmystr2
some games MIGHT do it, but there's no reason for them to do so when most people don't want that.
[23:17:14]
Dadrobit
It's just trickery.
[23:17:20]
Bgrmystr2
^ prettymuch
[23:18:26]
Bgrmystr2
if you listen to that barber shop video I linked, it'll sound pretty realistic, and that's the whole virtual surround thing happening
[23:18:51]
Bgrmystr2
I listened to it with my headphones a while back, was pretty interesting what they can do
[23:19:04]
Vatruvius
I csn swear Rainbow Six Seige has realistic sound placement? But maybe that is why I cannot differenciate verticallity, just left, more left, or right, and more tight.
[23:19:16]
Dadrobit
Yup, it's a thing called divergence.
[23:19:50]
Vatruvius
Hmm... :thinking:
[23:20:30]
Vatruvius
I would listen to the video but I shipped my computer yesterday for repairs.
[23:20:43]
Vatruvius
On my phone right now.
[23:20:59]
Bgrmystr2
do your headphones that you have not plug into your phone? :thinking:
[23:21:03]
Dadrobit
Any headset or earbuds will work.
[23:21:10]
Bgrmystr2
anything will work yeah
[23:21:26]
Vatruvius
USB headset.
[23:21:27]
Dadrobit
Also, thank you for that video, it was fun to listen to.
[23:21:39]
Bgrmystr2
:thumbsup: yeah those are pretty good stuff
[23:22:03]
Vatruvius
My 3.5mm earbuds are broke too. Just ordered a replacement.
[23:22:32]
Vatruvius
Wait...USB headphones are good?
[23:22:54]
Vatruvius
That is the only type of headphones I have talking about.
[23:23:44]
Bgrmystr2
I guess it depends on how they work. Digital audio can be better than using jacks, but jacks go all the way to professional grade, and I don't know how high of a quality a usb connection goes
[23:24:16]
Bgrmystr2
I do know that jacks do have electric interference sometimes, and that kinda stuff
[23:24:21]
Vatruvius
Literally everything I have beenbtalking about had USB connection in mind.
[23:24:36]
Bgrmystr2
while USB connections like my computer's audio output is all 100% digital
[23:26:00]
Vatruvius
So, though my headset has 2 drivers, the USB connection means it has digital surround? Is tgat better tyan virtual surround, same thing? :ptv-wondering:
[23:26:02]
Dadrobit
USB is going to demand a good external or built in DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) while any 3.5 or 1/4 inch will require that your computer do that work.
[23:26:33]
Vatruvius
that* than*
[23:26:51]
Bgrmystr2
it's a different thing, vatru. Digital vs analogue is how the audio is sent from the source to the drivers
[23:27:13]
Vatruvius
Oh...duh. That kind of digital.
[23:27:48]
Bgrmystr2
it's just the difference of whether the audio is transferred from digital to analogue in your pc, or in your audio system base
[23:27:58]
Bgrmystr2
mine's in my audio system, came with a USB input
[23:28:43]
Bgrmystr2
but it's still stereo
[23:29:00]
Vatruvius
I see, so these USB connection means that these headsets can have a better virtual surround depending on tge type of support that is built into it?
[23:29:17]
Vatruvius
the*
[23:29:26]
Bgrmystr2
well, it's just a different way of getting the audio from the source to the drivers you're listening to
[23:29:42]
Dadrobit
Virtual surround is completely independent factor.
[23:29:47]
Vatruvius
I am so confused!
[23:30:10]
Dadrobit
is a*
[23:30:10]
Vatruvius
I just want real surround sound!
[23:30:23]
Bgrmystr2
yeh they're independent of each other. You can have digital connection and mono, stereo, or surround, or you can have analogue and have any of those as well
[23:30:36]
Dadrobit
Then buy a bunch of speakers and a sub and ditch the headset.
[23:30:44]
Bgrmystr2
prettymuch ^
[23:31:49]
Bgrmystr2
you can actually get large scale surround sub included for $100. They're not going to be super amazing best quality in the world or anything.. but it will be true surround
[23:31:50]
Dadrobit
Only way you're getting real surround that is faithful to the media is if the media supports it AND you have a setup that is true surround.
[23:32:07]
Vatruvius
Not going with that method, I like headphones.
[23:32:18]
Bgrmystr2
then it won't be true surround :/
[23:32:38]
Dadrobit
Then spend your dosh on quality stereo.
[23:34:18]
Vatruvius
But all these headphones are advertising their 7.1 "virtual" surround. Though it is trickery, tgere has to be some sort of truth to it?
[23:34:31]
Vatruvius
there*
[23:34:58]
Dadrobit
The truth is that you're literally being sold an illusion at the cost of extra money and degradation to the original audio.
[23:35:10]
Dadrobit
But it does sound neat.
[23:35:19]
Bgrmystr2
prettymuch xD
[23:37:38]
Vatruvius
*sigh*
[23:37:52]
Vatruvius
The more you know. :ptv-unimpressed:
[23:41:31]
JDH
yo the tk website just tried to give me a virus, fake or no, i shut that down..not the first time for me, any recomendations
[23:41:58]
Bgrmystr2
sounds like you have adware already, possibly
[23:42:33]
Dadrobit
What was it, JDH?
[23:42:52]
Vatruvius
Run a security scan?
[23:43:08]
Bgrmystr2
I'd recommend grabbing Malwarebytes anti-malware, and doing a scan with it, just to be on the safe side.
[23:43:09]
JDH
it was automated, prob just a troll or something
[23:43:15]
Dadrobit
I had something pop up a few weeks back and sent a notice to keenspot about it after I did a full cleanup of my system and found nothing.
[23:43:35]
JDH
i have the full version of norton plus firefo
[23:43:37]
Bgrmystr2
there might actually be an ad on the website that is either giving false positives, or being a problem
[23:43:39]
JDH
firefox
[23:43:47]
Bgrmystr2
norton is already a bad sign :x
[23:44:10]
JDH
but the message sounded like i was in a spaceship about to explode
[23:44:31]
JDH
prob just my stuff but a heads up to anyone
[23:45:12]
Dadrobit
Yup, same happened to me. Pop up box with a siren attached.
[23:45:14]
Vatruvius
I hate Norton, switched to umm...what was it called...Webroot.
[23:45:30]
Dadrobit
Something's up with Keenspot.
[23:45:46]
Bgrmystr2
you think it's Keenspot?
[23:45:54]
Bgrmystr2
hmm
[23:46:08]
Vatruvius
Never got that...but my Webroot has a integration into my Chrome browser.
[23:46:10]
JDH
could be, but i wouldnt hold anything past the interwebs
[23:46:14]
Bgrmystr2
Well, a lot of people are reporting something from the site
[23:46:20]
Dadrobit
Same ad/virus happening on the same site to two different people.
[23:46:21]
Bgrmystr2
this isn't the first time
[23:46:33]
Bgrmystr2
I've heard at least 4 or 5 different people say something about it
[23:46:43]
JDH
oh snaps, guess im glad i brought up
[23:47:19]
JDH
i just closed the app, and it was fine after like 3 tries (me at least)
[23:47:22]
Dadrobit
I wish I had the foresight to screenshot it. Couldn't give much detail in my email to keenspot about it.
[23:47:46]
Bgrmystr2
the popup doesn't open for me cuz I use Ublock on everything. I take zero chances. No ads, no chance for malware to pop out
[23:48:02]
Dadrobit
I just terminated the browser from the task manager. Didn't want to risk clicking anything hidden.
[23:48:17]
Bgrmystr2
and even if it does pop up, Avast has active shields to block it
[23:48:45]
JDH
well, im heading to bed, just thought I would ask if anyone esle got something like, apparently so...so good to know!
[23:49:05]
Dadrobit
Yeah, glad (kind of) to hear it wasn't just me.
[23:49:05]
JDH
thought was just me lol
[23:49:34]
Dadrobit
Everybody was hatin' on me when I brought it up in a stream lol.
[23:49:41]
JDH
gotta love technology (spelling?)
[23:50:00]
Dadrobit
Correct spelling
[23:50:02]
JDH
well peace yall!
[23:50:04]
Dadrobit
Cya
[23:50:26]
Bgrmystr2
generally, getting ads from a site that noone else is tends to lean towards the user being infected
[23:50:31]
Dadrobit
I'm gonna bounce for a bit myself and make some foods.
[23:50:45]
Bgrmystr2
but yeah in this case, it looks more likely to be the site
[23:50:52]
Bgrmystr2
have fun dadro :o
[23:54:45]
Vatruvius
So, one of the true 7.1 surround headsets has its own control box, is that the prod8version of a soundcard?
[23:55:11]
Vatruvius
products version*
[23:55:40]
Bgrmystr2
does the control box connect via USB?
[23:55:48]
Vatruvius
Yes.
[23:56:07]
Bgrmystr2
it might then, but I dunno. It's probably only for volume control reallly
[23:56:47]
Vatruvius
It says it allows the user to control volume and switch between surround and stero.
[23:57:20]
Bgrmystr2
it's likely that the controlbox is just a sound control, and is not a replacement for a legit sound car
[23:57:23]
Bgrmystr2
card* even
[23:57:40]
Bgrmystr2
I've seen some sound cards go for $100 by themselves
[23:57:47]
Bgrmystr2
that's not something you ship with a headset for free.
[23:58:01]
Vatruvius
Says this option is there so the user can switch depending on the media they are listening to.
[23:58:27]
Vatruvius
Like surround support mefia or not.
[23:58:40]
Vatruvius
supported media*
[23:59:03]
Bgrmystr2
what's most likely happening is that even if it has multiple drivers, it still is likely going to be virtual surround.
[23:59:55]
Bgrmystr2
since all of the speakers in the headset are going to be directly outside of your ear. they're not actually behind your ear, behind your head, in front of your face, it's not going to be something that you can tell just from the placement and audio reverb